The 9T for 100L "bargain"

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That is sooo funny! I actually had one guy get mad at me for not trading a 9T Oci Mega with Latte and other great traits in exchange for a 6T Gen fur with MOF...He said i was being difficult LOL. I was like wth???

I think the reason he got mad was disappointment...the day before i sold him a really nice mega at a 'friendly price' and I think he thought I didnt know what it was worth and would make that trade out of ignorance. Poor man...I dont sell my kitties are very high prices, and am happy to pay for the quality I want. But geeeze...I still shake my head and laugh when i think of that guy

(06-07-2014 08:36 PM)Hathor Xaris Wrote:  the last straw was someone being upset i wouldn't sell my 8T 2500L retired fur
mega for 500L , they kept saying they didnt want to breed and that was their excuse
for why they thought they should get to buy it for only 500L,
but i knew full well they were taking me for an idiot and that they were just a
vulture looking for a desperate breeder to take advantage of,
then turn around and force it on someone else for the amount i deserved...
how rare megas are i only get one every 50-100 boxes, i dont even want to explain
how much that costs in food but be assured when you see prices tags on
megas for 6k or more its well deserved due to rarity and trait value combined..
and when you see it for under that its due to desperation...

I raised the price on it to 3000L after they said that out of anger.
the last thing i had to sell for cheap was a foxie mega with jade eyes for only 800L!!
this is after it would not sell for weeks at 1500 L, after that i fed my cats and
menaged the last of the ones i could not afford to feed ive gone from over 500 cats
in the beginning of my kittycats breeding hobby to just under 80 about 6 or 7 months
and a whole bunch of mistakes later

So im keeping them all now, will only be keeping one inworld store to "show"
them off at exorbitant prices and to help set an example of actual worth,
its no wonder everyone who's new always asks what to price their cats for,
they are clueless in a washed up market like this,
im treating my cats like designer cats or something to
that effect hoping it will help retain their value by teaching others exactly
what that is, keeping only the good ones and drowning the ugly ones is my
new policy, at least to what suits "my" tastes, some of you might be horrified to see
what kinds of traits i regularly menage without even flinching anymore.

hoping that one day soon more new ppl realize that they should consider
being as stubborn as I am by taking up the practice of
not selling their cats for "peanuts" instead menage menage menage,
or only opening what they can afford to feed, or simply not trying to open too
many cats at a time chasing after traits, and learning to ditch the ones that don't
put out, thats if they can get over all the confusing things about learning how to
breed kittycats properly in the first place,

its not easy to take the reins sometimes, i know in the beginning i was doing the
same thing from sheer inexperience, selling them for very low prices
just to try and feed my cats, i just finished cleaning out over 100 kitties
on the online marketplace i had to sell them all for 100L each and thats the
last time i ever breed that many cats and actually think i can sell them for what they
are worth in a market where my neighbors undercut me every time knowing
they face similar issues, since its a group evil we all seem to lose out hard
from our own desperation,

but now because of this the market is so bad and im forced just to not really have
very many cats and not bother even trying to sell them too often... Luckily for me
though i have other sl businesses to rely on to feed a few select kitties.
And btw i didnt know they did temp increases of menagerie dollars before,
thats a fantastic idea, but sadly i've already had to menage so many many kitties
so little that helps me now, heres to visiting more auctions, which i finally now understand why,
and hoping things get better in the fall...
cuz thats how long y'all gonna have to wait to buy my pretty kitties again...
im off of the kittycats market for now, cept for my dozen or so in my one
showroom store im keeping course

sadly i dont have much time for much else this busy rl summer brings,
but you might still see me a wall flower at an auction or two on my day off,
and thats only if i actually have some extra some rl money to spend on sl.
as supposed to the money id get from kittycats sales like i use too...

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Agreed...to be honest, I dont sell high and i do have a rule of thumb where i vary only if there is a very new or difficult trait to work with. And sometimes I have been known to make 'breeder's terms' with a buyer if I know them well, or to let a friend use one of my kitties. Its all good. I rather see it get used if i dont have anything ready for it than just hoard it.

I mentioned a 9T Oci mega with great traits in another post. A man got ticked cuz i wouldnt trade it for a 6T Flame III with MOF...seriously? Just because I gave him a great break the other day, he mistook my graciousness for stupidity - a mistake only made once. But my prices are my prices and I will Not go below a certain point without feeling like I am undermining my peer's efforts. Anyone who doesnt like it is free to move on.

(06-08-2014 02:10 AM)Vrem Vaniva Wrote:  Good for you Hathor. Hold that line, set an example. Not many people would see your 3K price for the 8T megapuss as unreasonable. Unaffordable to many, maybe, but certainly not unfair. Not even unaffordable to someone who really wants it and has the sense to save for a desired purchase.

Anyone who makes/sells stuff in SL encounters freebie-seekers daily. I've been wheedled in all kinds of ways ... shockingly at times ("I neeed that dress but I don't have $195 lindens -- will you give it to me? Oh and i don't have time to sit and wait for the lucky chair to call my name, plus I don't remember what the first letter of my name is because i keep changing my name to something illegible.") The cheap-kittie-shark might just be a new breed of freebie-seeker ? Freebie-seekers are often tremendously proud that they don't spend even an RL penny in SL. It's the pride of being successful at ... well, taking. Hang in there and take comfort in the fact that you are contributing. Maybe be a little bit cynical about people who try to bully you into giving up your best for nothin'.

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To me it seemed racist to presume that "third world" citizens get their kittens dishonestly...She may not have meant it that way, but thats how it reads and it saddened me to think that we can have a discussion without stereotypes being promoted that way...

I have liked seeing all the different minds on this matter, and have gotten soooo many private replies and comments. This may be why the support is mainly private - fear of intimidation or repercussions. It should not be that way. 1000 minds with one thought is really just 1000 minds with 999 not thinking at all. Lets keep the discussion civil and enjoy the thread...which by the way is Not elitist ffs lol

(06-08-2014 05:45 PM)Vrem Vaniva Wrote:  

(06-08-2014 12:12 PM)Dimpz Morane Wrote:  

(06-08-2014 11:31 AM)Hathor Xaris Wrote:  I wonder if it's possible that some of the vultures are typically from third world countries where 100 linden is actually good money to them, as to how exactly they obtain their kitties in the first place? It's probably that your guess is as good as mine...just guessing here, and considering that they are probably obtained in illegitimate ways it could be all the more reason to avoid buying from not so well known avies when the price tag is too small.

I find this incredible offensive and racist, in so many ways - my blood is actually boiling!!!

please think before posting such remarks

... hands Dimpz an ice pack to cool the blood ... plays soft music.
I feel you're being too harsh with Hathor. She is trying to find some explanation to account for ... the behavior of tricksters and fraud artists she has encountered. It's easy to be indignant and "holier than thou" if you aren't willing to put yourself in another person's shoes for a moment.

The only thing remotely racist in Hathor's comment is the term "Third World". Not really sure exactly what is meant by that term -- but she only referst to "countries where 100L is a month's salary." -- so -- economic third world, not racial third world ...
You've all see the fly by night skin template pirates and such ... IP theft knows no cultural boundaries, surely. There's no way to pirate a kittycat, yayy. But we have encountered fraudulent trading, so don't be too judgmental of Hathor's observation.
An imperative to Tolerance is built in to the Terms of Service in Second Life. The TOS doesn't go a lot further than that, -- hence, kindness is not required.