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New Sparkle Dream eyes recessives
03-06-2016, 10:42 PM
Post: #11
RE: New Sparkle Dream eyes recessives
(03-06-2016 10:16 PM)Kayla Woodrunner Wrote:  Hi Alassariah

I'm putting your pic inline if you don't mind

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Okay in your chart
Mom has Odyssey Dream shown, Ody Bell or more recessive hid
Dad shows Sparkle dream, has Exotic Journey hid

Baby shows Ody Bell. However your baby did not get Sparkle Dream as the hid. It got Exotic Journey.

Saga's charts says this about Sparkle Dream
Sparkle Dream dominant to Tapestry Royale and recessive to Crystal Dream

Because Ody Bell is recessive to Tapestry Royal, that means the baby did not get Sparkle Dream. If it had gotten Sparkle Dream against Ody Bell, because Sparkle Dream is proven dominant to Ody Bell, Sparkle Dream would have shown. Therefore the Baby's hid is Exotic Journey, a very recessive eye color.

This also proves Mom's hidden eye is Ody Bell.

Thank you for posting the chart, though. Maybe Sparky will pass Sparkle Dream on the next baby, looking forward to seeing it.

Wow! Learning curve! Awesome and thank you for posting and describing the chart for me. I had to read it twice to fully get that. So if I understand that correctly, breeding baby with Exotic Journey may likely pull that eye?

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03-07-2016, 12:05 AM (This post was last modified: 03-07-2016 12:06 AM by Kayla Woodrunner.)
Post: #12
RE: New Sparkle Dream eyes recessives
breeding baby back to Sparky gives you these odds

each has 1 shown 1 hid
each passes 1
Baby = Aa = shown A Ody Bell hid a Exotic Journey
Saprky =Bb = shown B Sparkle Dream hid b Exotic Journey

Possibilities -- each possibility is 25% chance of happening
AB = Sparkle Dream shown, Ody Bell hid
Ab = Ody Bell shown, Exotic Journey hid
aB = Sparkle Dream shown, Exotic Journey hid
ab = Exotic Journey shown, Exotic Journey hid

25% chance Exotic Journey shown with same hid
50% Exotic Journey hid with either Sparkle Dream or Ody Bell shown
25% no Exotic Journey because you will have Sparkle Dream shown, Ody Bell hid

thing is what I would do is breed Sparky to mom until you had a daughter with either Silver Tabby or Blue Marble shown and Ody Bell eyes (which means Ex Journey automatically hid). Then breed daughter back to Sparky -- that way you avoid getting a double genesis fur on their babies. Unless, of course, you like the Domino V fur.

hope that helps

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03-07-2016, 01:24 AM (This post was last modified: 03-07-2016 01:28 AM by Alassariah Resident.)
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RE: New Sparkle Dream eyes recessives
Kayla, I like all of the furs but I love finding out what's hidden including underneath the Genesis traits so your plan sounds great. I am running with it as the experience will definitely help out with developing my breeding projects which to date have been unorganized and haphazard. Thank you so much for your kind advice. Big Grin

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03-12-2016, 02:44 PM
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RE: New Sparkle Dream eyes recessives
Just had this surprise kitten from two Sparkle Dream Parents. Safe to say Sparkle Dream is dominant to Fancie Rose Diamond.

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03-12-2016, 04:11 PM
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RE: New Sparkle Dream eyes recessives
Wow, where did THAT come from? *shaking my head*

(03-12-2016 02:44 PM)Ayame Meili Wrote:  Just had this surprise kitten from two Sparkle Dream Parents. Safe to say Sparkle Dream is dominant to Fancie Rose Diamond.

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03-12-2016, 04:43 PM
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RE: New Sparkle Dream eyes recessives
LOL Ikr? That's what I said when I saw the traits! Sneaky Mailman cat is at it again Tongue

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03-13-2016, 12:38 AM
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RE: New Sparkle Dream eyes recessives
Sparky update: He passed his eye Big Grin

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03-13-2016, 06:16 AM (This post was last modified: 03-13-2016 06:22 AM by Kayla Woodrunner.)
Post: #18
RE: New Sparkle Dream eyes recessives
Hi Ayame,
Cool chart. I always love surprises. Since Sparkle Dream is new,it had to come from the Nutcrackers as their hid. Fancie Rose Diamond is dominant to Grotto, so could not come from Sabrina who has to have Grotto or more recessive hid from her mom Ava. The Fancie Rose Diamond has to come from Edgar as his dad Callaghan hid which means somewhere along the way dad had a Fancie as an ancestor.

Saga's chart says
"Sparkle Dream dominant to Tapestry Royale and recessive to Crystal Dream - more info, please."

Your finding knocks about 5 furs in the dominance so now Sparkle Dreams has to be between
Crystal Dream to Fancie Rose Diamond

Good job! Send your chart to the Saga's folks if you get a chance so they can update their dominance on Sparkle Dream.


Hi Alassariah,
Congrats on getting the Sparkle Dream on the Blue Marble fur. That's a really pretty combo. Be cool to find out if Odyssey Dream or Ody Bell or more recessive is the hid. If the hid is Odyssey Dream, it would narrow the range for the dominance of Sparkle Dream considerably. Let us know if you decide to breed the baby what you find out!

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03-13-2016, 10:01 AM (This post was last modified: 03-13-2016 10:47 AM by Alassariah Resident.)
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RE: New Sparkle Dream eyes recessives
Kayla, I do plan to breed him! The eye is quite a bit more dominant than the fur but this pairing pulled the hidden which is what I've been trying to learn more of so that worked out great. My Birthday, Crazy Love and Love Bird cats have not thrown their hiddens very well paired with the most recessive traits I have and I am very curious as to what may be underneath. Thank you Smile

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07-18-2016, 01:05 AM (This post was last modified: 07-18-2016 01:15 AM by Kayla Woodrunner.)
Post: #20
RE: New Sparkle Dream eyes recessives
Currently Sparkle Dream is showing at
Saga's charts says: dominant to Fancie Rose Diamond and recessive to Crystal Dream

This is proof that Sparkle Dream is recessive to Morning Dew

Mom shows Ody Bellini
Dad shows Morning Dew
Baby shows Sparkle Dream proving Sparkle Dream is Dad's hid and recessive to MOrning Dew.

Note: this also means I can end my Crystal Berry vs Sparkle Dream test since Morning Dew is recessive to Crystal Berry. Sparkle Dream is automatically recessive to Crystal Berry

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