(10-15-2015 06:06 PM)Ivy Norsk Wrote: I think that for a business, KittyCatS has been remarkably open about what they will allow on their forum. They run it - and I'm glad - as a sponsored hobbyist/fan forum with all the highs and lows and enthusiasms.
I'd like to point out that far from it being impossible to have a civil discussion on the issues of pricing, loss-leaders, and undercutting in an industry, in the Real World this is done every day in newspapers, economist magazines, and websites. It simply requires that people push their emotions to the side and focus on the analysis of the facts and dynamics. It can be done.
It is done.
Over and over again.
Successfully.
This does not mean of course that parties from different demographics (KittyCats hobbyists versus KittyCats business people and every shade in between) will come to an agreement about the future. But meaningful discussion Can Be Had without drama.
Agreed! And thank you for starting the group.
(10-16-2015 02:09 AM)Shamu077 Resident Wrote: The rule seems to be "any market discussion is bad news" so don't post it here.
This forum has become a marketing forum and one where stray newbies can ask basic questions. Any discussion that talks about the state of the KC market gets cut off because there are too many sellers here that are afraid to speak publicly about anything that might affect their sales or prices.
Tad, you used to put a "State Of The Market" analysis here, back when it was mostly good news, that is more new breeders to replace the burned out ones, and sales were about the same as always. It's been two years since I have seen your analysis. Why?
My own indicator is simply the bid board auctions at the most popular secondary market sims. We are scraping the bottom this year in terms of cats offered and cats with bids before the auction expires. At the same time some auctioneers wring their hands about low prices and lack of meaningful bids. But wait, now I am not being productive so I will be silent again, as I have been most of this year.
I'd love to see Tad's analysis of what is going on now as well.
We can certainly talk about the state of the market, prices, etc. in Cattery Chatter - and we often do. Other times, we look at pedigrees, or just chat over coffee. Please feel free to come join us. Open, honest, grounded discussion is always welcome.
