kinda new and have a question

[Tad Carlucci]

Hahaha???

Just so new breeders know: the cat either has, or has not.

The odds of it passing are either exactly 50% (it has) or 0% (it has not).

KittyCatS are not Meeroos. It does not matter whether the ancestors never showed a trait value, or whether it's visible for the past 50 million generations; the odds are always 50% if the cat has the genetic material, and 0% if it does not.

The question, in this case, is does the offspring, a boy, have it?

Clearly his mother does.

But the offspring shows the same as his mother.

If his father did not have Balinese Cream Lynx, then it must have come from his mother.

But his mother can only pass ONE value.

If she passed the Balinese Cream Lynx, it is impossible for her to also have passed Foxie Salt and Pepper.

I don't care how many generations of Foxie Salt and Pepper her ancestors presented. If she was the source of Balinese Cream Lynx, then her son cannot have received Foxie Salt and Pepper from her.

So, in answering the OP question, what are the chances of producing Foxie Salt and Pepper from breeding the son to the mother, the critical question is: was the father a Balinese Cream Lynx, or can he be shown to carry Balinese Cream Lynx.

If he did not have Balinese Cream Lynx the chances of success are nil. It can't happen. Ever.

If he DID have Balinese Cream Lynx, the chances are 1-in-3 that the son carries his mother's hidden Foxie Salt and Pepper. If he does not (2 out of 3 times, he won't), the chances of success are nil. It can't happen. Ever. It could have, with another son, but not this one.

So, **IF** the father carries Balinese Cream Lynx, and we select a random male offspring from the pairing, showing Balinese Cream Lynx like his mother, the odds of successfully producing Foxie Salt and Pepper are EITHER 0 (2 out of 3 times) or 1-in-4 (1 out of 3 times).

I would put the generalized odds of success, then at 1-in-12. But with caveats that this is misleading, because we're talking about a specific son, and not an infinite number of them. The odds are either 0 or 1-in-4, for this specific son. And you won't know which until you try, maybe not even then.

But, remember, if the father was NOT Balinese Cream Lynx, and did NOT hide Balinese Cream Lynx, all that goes out the windows and the odds are simple: there would be no chance, whatsoever, ever, that breeding the son to the mother would produce Foxie Salt and Pepper.