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RE: Chateau Slate & White No. 1 recessiveness - Kayla Woodrunner - 08-26-2016 08:46 AM
Yay! Reven pointed out Purringfox's/Cee's chart proves Slate is dom to Bengal Tawny. I missed that one! I'll update the eye list
RE: Chateau Slate & White No. 1 recessiveness - Reven Rosca - 08-26-2016 09:31 AM
(08-25-2016 10:51 PM)PurringFox McMillan Wrote: OK 2 breedings Slate and White #1 X Bengal Tawny
Placed???
~~Cee
I will analyse the charts one by one
Breeding 1:
Mom:
![[Image: 765563e02191f2a99dc2a6f73c8225f3.png]](https://gyazo.com/765563e02191f2a99dc2a6f73c8225f3.png)
Serafina is a solid, possibly pure Bengal Tawny to test with, but I'd find othe use for her, because you have the proof further down.
Dad:
![[Image: 1c9d81f0e86e4966d864136efe7ebf96.png]](https://gyazo.com/1c9d81f0e86e4966d864136efe7ebf96.png)
Eadwyn shows Chateau Slate & White No. 1 and hides Tonkinese Champagne or a more recessive fur, and could be bred to Serafina for proof against Bengal Tawny.
I suggest that you breed him to a different fur, because you have already proved the relative placement between Chateau Slate & White No. 1 and Tawny tabby (below)
Breeding 2
Mom:
![[Image: 2700af4affba7a47952471f793449124.png]](https://gyazo.com/2700af4affba7a47952471f793449124.png)
Mom shows Australian Mist - Blue Marble, and hides the same or a more recessive fur.
Dad shows Chateau Slate & White No. 1 and hides Tonkie Blue Mink (or more recessive, but I doubt that because of age)
Kitten Serena shows Chateau Slate & White No. 1 and hides Australian Mist - Blue Marble or a more recessive fur.
Dad:
![[Image: 636474c21cd9ba0214ae7d56e38c7c09.png]](https://gyazo.com/636474c21cd9ba0214ae7d56e38c7c09.png)
This is where it gets interesting!
Grandpa Cosmic shows Bengal Tawny. We don't know what he hides, but it doesn't matter in this case.
Grandma Shazic shows Chateau Slate & White No. 1. As with grandma, the hidden fur is both unknown and not important.
Mum Abby shows Chateau Slate & White No. 1 from Shazic and hides Cosmic's shown or hidden fur.
Dad Rolfe shows Bengal Snow, and hides the same or a more recessive fur.
Kitten Rigby shows Bengal Tawny, which is known to be dominant to Bengal Snow.
His shown fur must therefore be Rolfe's hidden.
This chart proves that Chateau Slate & White No. 1 is dominant to Bengal Tawny.
Kitten 1:
![[Image: 6051600692d72da84fb6714fdeaf33c0.png]](https://gyazo.com/6051600692d72da84fb6714fdeaf33c0.png)
Kitten 2:
![[Image: 9f357eb46357c476d0bdf6f97b9da814.png]](https://gyazo.com/9f357eb46357c476d0bdf6f97b9da814.png)
Both these kittens are offspring from Serena and Rigby above.
Both show Rigby's Bengal Tawny fur, and must therefore hide Australian Mist Blue Marble or more recessive from Serena, because we have proved that Bengal Tawny is recessive to Chateau Slate & White No. 1 (and cannot hide it)
Well done Cee
(08-26-2016 08:46 AM)Kayla Woodrunner Wrote: Yay! Reven pointed out Purringfox's/Cee's chart proves Slate is dom to Bengal Tawny. I missed that one! I'll update the eye list
Please don't
RE: Chateau Slate & White No. 1 recessiveness - Arwen Swordthain - 08-29-2016 01:22 PM
Really knocking furs off the list now. How cool would it be to have all furs (and eyes) placed before halloween collections come out.
Yeah I know eyes is just hopeful
RE: Chateau Slate & White No. 1 recessiveness - Kayla Woodrunner - 08-29-2016 01:46 PM
I am popping out what Reven said about the chart that provided the proof. As it's a long list of charts and only chart midlist provided the proof, it's easy to miss. Thanks for analyzing them indivdiually Reven. I actually missed the proof when I first saw them.
Reven said about Cee's chart:
"This is where it gets interesting!
Grandpa Cosmic shows Bengal Tawny. We don't know what he hides, but it doesn't matter in this case.
Grandma Shazic shows Chateau Slate & White No. 1. As with grandma, the hidden fur is both unknown and not important.
Mum Abby shows Chateau Slate & White No. 1 from Shazic and hides Cosmic's shown or hidden fur.
Dad Rolfe shows Bengal Snow, and hides the same or a more recessive fur.
Kitten Rigby shows Bengal Tawny, which is known to be dominant to Bengal Snow.
His shown fur must therefore be Rolfe's hidden.
This chart proves that Chateau Slate & White No. 1 is dominant to Bengal Tawny."
![[Image: 636474c21cd9ba0214ae7d56e38c7c09.png]](https://embed.gyazo.com/636474c21cd9ba0214ae7d56e38c7c09.png)
RE: Chateau Slate & White No. 1 recessiveness - Elisaveta Vasser - 09-01-2016 02:12 PM
Proof #1 Chateau Cat Slate & White #1 is recessive to Ocicat - Lavender:
![[Image: 7791f82265d5612bd2c066d8382d1752.png]](https://gyazo.com/7791f82265d5612bd2c066d8382d1752.png)
so close now!
RE: Chateau Slate & White No. 1 recessiveness - Kayla Woodrunner - 09-01-2016 03:08 PM
Wow! This is great Elisveta. This knocks out 3 furs (not eyes! I got it right this time! lol) We are down to one fur!
Slate Chat is recessive to Ocicat Lavender and dominant to Bengal Tawny. Only needs to be tested against Cream Tabby now for the final proof!
RE: Chateau Slate & White No. 1 recessiveness Ocicat - Lavender - Elisaveta Vasser - 09-02-2016 07:17 PM
Here's a second proof on the Slate & White recessive to Ocicat Lavender
Foxie -Argyle mom and Ocicat Lavender dad pulls a CC Slate&White.
![[Image: aec2d2a1c7751831a64bea94da1dbfb7.png]](https://gyazo.com/aec2d2a1c7751831a64bea94da1dbfb7.png)
Here's repost of first proof:
I've got Cream Tabby's breeding. We are SO close now!
(09-01-2016 03:08 PM)Kayla Woodrunner Wrote: Wow! This is great Elisveta. This knocks out 3 furs (not eyes! I got it right this time! lol) We are down to one fur!
Slate Chat is recessive to Ocicat Lavender and dominant to Bengal Tawny. Only needs to be tested against Cream Tabby now for the final proof!
RE: Chateau Slate & White No. 1 recessiveness - Elisaveta Vasser - 09-03-2016 12:06 PM
Slate x Cream Tabby - Cream Tabby Dom
![[Image: 3785e60cf43dcee132f6ed903ad5705d.png]](https://gyazo.com/3785e60cf43dcee132f6ed903ad5705d.png)
Mom is hiding either Aby Dk Choc or more recessive, Dad hides Siam.Lilac.
Kitten shows Cream Tabby, proving it is Dom.
RE: Chateau Slate & White No. 1 recessiveness - Reven Rosca - 09-03-2016 12:17 PM
(09-03-2016 12:06 PM)Elisaveta Vasser Wrote: Slate x Cream Tabby - Cream Tabby Dom
Mom is hiding either Aby Dk Choc or more recessive, Dad hides Siam.Lilac.
Kitten shows Cream Tabby, proving it is Dom.
I am afraid this chart only proves that Cream Tabby is dominant to Siamese Lilac or a more recessive fur. This is already known.
Zooey must be tested, and Cream Tabby will be proven dom to CC Slate & White if she hides CC Slate & White
RE: Chateau Slate & White No. 1 recessiveness - PurringFox McMillan - 09-12-2016 10:04 AM
I think this is the proof I have been waiting for
![[Image: c89262b4c07685b29ed1fe7a82e2b03f.png]](https://gyazo.com/c89262b4c07685b29ed1fe7a82e2b03f.png)
Parents are up the thread a bit, This is showing the recessive slate fur coming through the Cream Tabby and Tawney Bengal. WHOOT!!!