Suggestion: Being able to get menagerie cats retrieved

[Kayleigh McMillan]

I will spare you my own story about the sadness I feel: I lost 2 dear kitties for good.
But I'm sure we all were once new and brought cats to menagerie we whole heartedly regret or we pushed the wrong button and the cat is gone and nothing can be done about that.
I know KittyCatS are a breedable and for every lost cat we can get an other cat back but KittyCatS are emotional creatures as well for some of us.
We can really get emotionally attached to a kitty and I think this is a compliment to the designers.
Having said that I would so love an option to be able to undo a mistake or something done out of being new to the kitties.
I like to suggest here and I can't picture completely how this should work, with menagerie dollars or Lindens to be able to get our beloved kitties back.
I'm well aware of the fact people can abuse a request to get a kitty replaced in example when they learn they have menageried a gold mine of specials which now a days can bring good bucks still I feel if nothing else there should be a possibility at the owners discretion to replace a kitty.
Making such cute animals includes perhaps the responsibility to acknowledge many see them as more than pixels beings.
This would complete the picture of pets which can breed because this is exactly how I at least think about them.
This can be told by the fact I own many permapets, not specials just normal cats, which have from a breedable perspective considering traits no value at all (anymore) but I love them dearly.
For my sensibilities I consider lack of a proper solution a very urgent matter if not a show stopper.

P.s. My permapets really don't need a menagerie button!

[Sara Franco]

(08-06-2012 11:37 AM)Kayleigh McMillan Wrote:  I will spare you my own story about the sadness I feel: I lost 2 dear kitties for good.
But I'm sure we all were once new and brought cats to menagerie we whole heartedly regret or we pushed the wrong button and the cat is gone and nothing can be done about that.
I know KittyCatS are a breedable and for every lost cat we can get an other cat back but KittyCatS are emotional creatures as well for some of us.
We can really get emotionally attached to a kitty and I think this is a compliment to the designers.
Having said that I would so love an option to be able to undo a mistake or something done out of being new to the kitties.
I like to suggest here and I can't picture completely how this should work, with menagerie dollars or Lindens to be able to get our beloved kitties back.
I'm well aware of the fact people can abuse a request to get a kitty replaced in example when they learn they have menageried a gold mine of specials which now a days can bring good bucks still I feel if nothing else there should be a possibility at the owners discretion to replace a kitty.
Making such cute animals includes perhaps the responsibility to acknowledge many see them as more than pixels beings.
This would complete the picture of pets which can breed because this is exactly how I at least think about them.
This can be told by the fact I own many permapets, not specials just normal cats, which have from a breedable perspective considering traits no value at all (anymore) but I love them dearly.
For my sensibilities I consider lack of a proper solution a very urgent matter if not a show stopper.

P.s. My permapets really don't need a menagerie button!

I'm sorry for your lost kitties, I like the suggestion and I think there is a solution to make sure no one would abuse the option, the retrieving from menagerie can be allowed only within 24 or 48 hours.

[Serena Stroikavskoi]

Kayleigh I feel the same way and I would suggest maybe a one time ticket thing maybe like every 6-12mos or within like 24hrs from the time you hit the wrong button.I've been in the same boat and everytime I think about that little kitty I want to slap myself.



PS Note; Permapets don't need a menagerie button.

[Kayleigh McMillan]

I'm glad I'm not the only one, I'm sorry to hear you had the same experience Serena!

[Deer Thistle]

Agreed! I can't tell you amount of times I was half-asleep, lost in a daze right before bed while bringing kitties from the cattery back to in-world and wanted to send them back to the cattery shortly after, only to menagerie them on accident because of the placement of "menagerie" in relation to "cattery."

I'd love it if we had an option to restore a kitty accidentally menageried every few months, I think the issue with retrieving menagerie kitties is that we already have the K$ from it? That's most likely why they don't wish to restore menagerie kitties due to the currently acquired.

Allowing a person to restore an accidental menagerie every 6-12 months or having a limited "grace period" or something like Serena suggested would be excellent and wouldn't really affect K$ in a way that could abuse the system to get more K$ by often restoring kitties menageried. I'm sure there's also newer breeders who menageried a kitty not realizing they couldn't get their feline friend back afterwards who would be quite grateful for an option like this.

[Kayleigh McMillan]

Very true Deerylou!
And yes, omg these buttons are just so inconveniently close located >.<
For this reason I'm almost scared to use the Online Cattery.
And even if they would withdraw 50 menagerie Dollars from my account to get my pecious cat back I would be more than happy with that!

[ruby Tierbal]

agree here , scary to loose a permapet and in lag the buttons r dangerously close lol , i have done it on kitties b4 thankfully not on one of my collections or id be crying im sure
would be nice to have a option to recover in the case of accidents occuring

[Sanura Snowpaw]

I wish there was a way to recover them as well, as far as having the option on a permapet I NEVER understood that one.

[Tad Carlucci]

How about a two-stage Menagerie process? Think of the Windows Trashcan icon ...

When you click in-world, or in the Cattery, the cat/box goes into a suspense listing (similar to the Cattery) and the K$ store credit goes into a suspense account in your K$ transaction history. You cannot expend K$ store credits which are in that suspense account. The cat/box will remain in the suspense account for no more than 24 hours. Prior to the end of that 24-hour period, you can call up the suspense list and select the cat/box to be returned to your Dock, or the Cattery, and the K$ store credit will be returned to the company; or you can select cats/boxes to immediately finalize the Menagerie process. If 24 hours passes, the process is automatically finalized. Upon finalization, the K$ store credit is moved from suspense to your balance. While in suspense, time-based functions such as age, hunger, rest, etc., continue running; but there is no food, pills or potions (this is NOT the Cattery) so, if a cat becomes sick while in suspense, and you later pull it back, it will be sick.

The intention of this process is to allow a 24-hour grace period, to allow the user to recover from an accidental press of the Menagerie button.

I chose 24 hours at random. Any time limit (or even no time limit) would work as well. But, with no time limit, some users will inevitably simply click the button in-world and wonder, days or weeks later, why they're never able to get their Le Tigre, totally missing the fact that they need (since there is no time limit) to log into the web site and finalize the Menagerie process. Such user errors are, as I said, inevitable; but they can be greatly reduced by having the Menagerie response in-world, or on the web, display a reminder about the need to finalize the transaction on the suspense page.

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In an ideal solution, factors such as the time limit for the suspense account, as well as whether the transaction is automatically finalized or automatically returns the cat/box to the Cattery, would be options on a User Account Options page. There are a number of other items should should be controllable on a by-account basis, such as first-time assistance, warning and error messages, whether store-credit (currently misnamed "balance") K$ can be used for normal expenses (as opposed to reserved for such things as Le Tigre purchases), and even automating the purchase of food and/or milk for the Cattery.

[Kayleigh McMillan]

Sounds like a real good idea Tad 24 hours can be a little short but as you said you picked a random time frame.
Because I can imagine we don't miss our cats instantly as we assume they are in the cattery to look at them a week later what the cat is they have birthed:-)
But this sounds like a very solid solution!
I can imagine an IM/ Mail or preferable both can be received from cats which are not fully processed to menagerie just so people get a heads up for example with a link to the finalization page.
And this might make it less needed to set the time frame too tight.
Hmm,.. A Menagerie and a Finalize button in the cat which leads to such page might be something, just brainstorming on this