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New Eye - UNITY SONG
12-13-2018, 01:25 PM (This post was last modified: 12-13-2018 01:25 PM by AubsCookie Resident.)
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RE: New Eye - UNITY SONG
hopefully this might help with placement

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12-13-2018, 02:40 PM
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RE: New Eye - UNITY SONG
You would need to pull the hidden on the New Born Kitten.
The Galaxy Comet is either hiding Unity Song or it is hiding Soul Whisper or better.
We won't know until you pull with a very recessive eye.

Thank you. You have a great tester cat.

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01-10-2019, 11:55 AM
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RE: New Eye - UNITY SONG
(12-13-2018 01:25 PM)AubsCookie Resident Wrote:  hopefully this might help with placement

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Bred the daughter...Aubs gave her to me to play with and first breeding out she threw me another galaxy comet so no answer yet. I've got her paired up with a marble magic kitty until she either throws me a Unity Song or shows that she is hiding soul whisper.
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01-10-2019, 12:36 PM
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RE: New Eye - UNITY SONG
I got a Unity Song kitten yesterday. I plan to run him opposite a cat showing Opaline which may or may not hid Galaxy Star. We'll see what happens.

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01-11-2019, 09:16 AM
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RE: New Eye - UNITY SONG
Sharing this for Melinda

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Mel is planning to breed Aaron to Fallon to see which eye she gets there Smile

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01-24-2019, 08:07 PM
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RE: New Eye - UNITY SONG
Unity Song is dominant to Serendipity Stare. In order to prove this, I need to show that Brady's father Aaron is pure Serendipity Stare. I'll start by showing Brady's pedigree, and then will go on to prove Aaron to be pure. Bear with me, this proof is a bit long! Rolleyes

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We'll begin with Giselle, here is her pedigree:

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Giselle is the Serendipity Stare cat I bought from Eleanor. PL4 6 Boy is the starter hiding Serendipity Stare. This starter was bred to a Toyger Caramel showing Exotic Journey and produced Anora, who shows Exotic Journey and hides the starter's hidden eye. When Anora was backbred to the starter, she produced Roane, who shows Serendipity Stare and is pure, as the starter and Anora both had to have passed their hidden, which is Serendipity Stare. When backbred to Anora, they produced Giselle, who is pure Serendipity Stare, having gotten Anora's hidden as well as Roane's Serendipity Stare.

Giselle was bred to Podrick who shows Tapestry Allure and hides Dry Olive. Their kitten Tessie is Showing Dry Olive from Podrick and hiding Serendipity Stare from Giselle.

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Tessie was bred to Tyler, who shows Exotic Journey and hides Soul Whisper. Their kitten Elsa shows Exotic Journey from Tyler, and hides Tessie's hidden Serendipity Stare.

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Elsa was bred to Rhett, who shows Galaxy Star. We know Galaxy Star is recessive to Exotic Journey and that Elsa hides Serendipity Stare, therefore we know that their kitten Dinah hides the Serendipity Stare.

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Here is where the pedigree splits a bit, but all cats are traceable back to Giselle.

Giselle was bred to Ed, who shows Pewter. Their kitten Junie shows Pewter and hides Serendipity Stare.

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Junie was bred with Del, who shows Violet (which is recessive to Pewter), and has Cupcake, who shows Violet from Del and therefore hides her mother's hidden Serendipity Stare.

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Cupcake was bred with Marcos, who shows Royal Sapphire and hides Galaxy Star. Their kitten, Gem, shows Galaxy Star (recessive to Violet) and so must hide Cupcake's hidden Serendipity Stare.

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Gem was bred with Midas, who shows Soul Whisper. Their kitten Danny shows Soul Whisper and hides Gem's hidden Serendipity Stare.

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Now back to Dinah. Danny is bred to Dinah, who was previously established to hide Serendipity Stare. Their kitten Seaborn shows Serendipity Stare and hides it as well (pure Serendipity Stare), as both parents passed their hiddens.

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Seaborn, pure Serendipity Stare, is backbred to mom Dinah, hiding Serendipity Stare. Their kitten Elvis is showing Serendipity Stare, and therefore pure (Seaborn is pure, and Dinah passed her hidden).

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Elvis is now paired with Martyna, showing Galaxy Star. Their daughter Madonna shows Galaxy Star from Martyna, and hides Serendipity Stare from Elvis.

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Madonna is bred with Seaborn, previously proven to be pure Serendipity Stare. Their daughter Holly shows Serendipity Stare, with Madonna passing her hidden, and is therefore pure.

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Madonna is again bred with Seaborn, producing a pure Serendipity Stare boy, Gryffin.

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Gryffin is then backbred with mom Madonna, producing Kyle, also pure Serendipity Stare.

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Kyle is bred with Holly, who has been proven to be pure Serendipity Stare. Their kitten Pekisko is also pure.

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Pekisko is backbred with Kyle, producing Aaron, a pure Serendipity Stare.

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Aaron is bred with Snowy, showing Unity Song. Their kitten, Brady, shows Unity Song. Since Aaron has been proven to be pure Serendipity Stare, there is no other possible eye that could be hidden under Brady's Unity Song; therefore Unity Song is dominant to Serendipity Stare.

Brady's pedigree again:

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01-25-2019, 03:29 AM
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RE: New Eye - UNITY SONG
Phew, that was a lot of work. Thank you Songdog for such a detailed explaination of the pedigrees. Might be a long one but its a fantastic excercise in showing how to create pure cats. If you do ever pull the Stare back out of Brady though please do share that pedigree as well Smile

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02-02-2019, 09:59 PM (This post was last modified: 02-02-2019 10:01 PM by Eleanor8 Resident.)
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RE: New Eye - UNITY SONG
Unity Song is recessive to Grotto.

The Widow, when paired with a Destiny Waters mate, made a Unity Song Kitten.

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When paired with a Grotto eye mate, she made a Kitten showing Grotto. Therefore, Unity Song must be recessive to Grotto.

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02-13-2019, 06:35 AM
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RE: New Eye - UNITY SONG
Thanks to Terror for these pedigrees showing that Unity Song is dominant to Soul Whisper

Pedigree one Terror breeds a Unity Song hiding Destiny Waters or better to a Serendipity Streams with an unknown hidden, the resulting baby is a Unity Song.

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Pedigree 2 Terror repeats the breed but this time she gets a Soul Whisper. Since the Unity Song hides Destiny Waters or better we can conclude the Soul Whisper is the previously unknown hidden from the Serendipity Streams meaning the baby in pedigree 1 hides either Serendipity Streams or Soul Whisper.

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Therefore since we know that the kitty in pedigree 1 has to hide at least Soul Whisper we can say for sure that Unity Song is dominant to Soul Whisper and ask Terror to pretty please check for Serendipity Streams since that eye is still in the test range Smile

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02-18-2019, 06:44 PM
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RE: New Eye - UNITY SONG
Unity Song is dominant to Exotic Journey.

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