Crystal Dream recessiveness against other Crystals

[Kayla Woodrunner]

I am separating out the Crystals because we need to get them hammered down. I think by having it clumped people don't know whether their chart helps to establish dominance or not.

I don't have any charts of crystals against crystals -- I thought I did but after searching -- nada.

Everyone -- Please help!

Saga's charts says
CRYSTAL EYES!! (order among them still required:
Crystal Sea > Crystal Dream > Crystal Clear,
Crystal Sun > Crystal Clear,
Crystal Spring ? (All Ltd.Ed.)

I think that means dominance is
Crystal Sea
Crysal Dream
Crystal Clear

as well as

Crystal Sun
Crystal Clear

and Crystal Spring can be anywhere

So I think Dream needs to be tested against Sun and Spring and is already dominant to Clear and recessive to Sea. If you think I've misread, chime in. If you have a chart, fling it up here.

[Kayla Woodrunner]

Malachite
Just want to add a note about Malachite. Malachite is proven dominant to Crystal Dream and Crystal Spring. So it looks like it is automatically dominant against Crystal Clear. So it only needs to be tested against Crystal Sea and Sun.

It is likely to be between Key Lime and the first Crystal eye which is going to be Sea, Sun or Spring.

[Reven Rosca]

I have a Chrystal Sea box that I'll open to test against Malachite.

[Kayla Woodrunner]

Awesome Reven, can't wait to see the result of your boxes and proofs!

[Kayla Woodrunner]

Gathering info on the Crystals

Old thread on Crystals
https://kittycats.ws/forum/showthread.php?tid=9099
see post 5/13/13 by Callie. The special first baby OS of the collection kitties that had the Crystal eyes also could randomly hide Crystal eyes, which created some early mistakes in the very early ratings of the Crystals. They way I interpret this inforamation is these Scrambled Eggs and Wild Flowers special first baby could receive their parents shown or hidden and get a hidden random crystal eye -- if they received the random crystal eye, their shown eye is from one parent and they did not receive an eye from the other parent because they got the random instead. Quoting below from Callie

"The Spring Cats ("Scrambled Eggs" and "Wild Flowers") had the possibilty of carrying the special eyes from the "Costumes" and that would be passed on to their offspring.

Due to a human error that same "chance" was mistakenly also added for the Special offspring, "Deviled" and "Wild Child." (similar to how the Lucky Irish Clover eye was assigned).

So if you are breeding with a "Deviled" or "Wild Child" and see one of the "Crystal eyes" appear out of the blue, this is the reason why. It's like they "got" a "special eye", even if their parents did NOT have it.

As this affects quiet a few cats, and to provide the same chances to everyone, we will not change this, and everyone who still has to breed its special cat will have that same random chance of it getting a "special eye".

We normally don't tell about your discoveries in recessive and dominants, as we know it's part of your fun Smile however, in this case, since this mistake was made, you may want to review your community trait ranking list as this confusion may have led to wrong assumptions with the Crystal eyes."

From Saga's Update History tab
14 Apr 2015 Crystal Dream dominant to Crystal Clear

[Kayla Woodrunner]

Crystal Spring is recessive to Crystal Dream

Mom Athena shows Crystal Dream
Dad GringoKK shows Strawberry Bellini
Baby shows Crystal Spring proving mom's hid and Crystal Spring is recessive to Crystal Dream

Just needs to be proven against Crytal Clear to be placed

[PurringFox McMillan]

Was asked to run Lemon x Crystal Dream

2 Breedings Lemon Dom as follows:

Mom:


Dad:


Kitten 1:


Kitten 2 same as 1 w diff fur

Cee

Not sure where we go next other than I have opened the siblings and hoee to pop the rec Sparkle Dream

[Reven Rosca]

(10-23-2016 02:45 AM)PurringFox McMillan Wrote:  Was asked to run Lemon x Crystal Dream

2 Breedings Lemon Dom as follows:

Mom:

Mom shows Sparkle Dream which must be her Dad's hidden eye, and hides Ody Bellini from her Mum

(10-23-2016 02:45 AM)PurringFox McMillan Wrote:  Dad:

Dad shows Lemon which must be his dad's hidden eye, because Lemon is known to be recessive to Odyssey Burst and dominant to Jade.
Dad's Hidden eye is Jade or a more recessive eye. Hare's dominant Crystal Dream was lost, and his unknown hidden eye passed.

(10-23-2016 02:45 AM)PurringFox McMillan Wrote:  Kitten 1:


Kitten 2 same as 1 w diff fur

The Kitten shows Lemon from Dad, and hides Sparkle Dream or Ody Bellini from Mum.

This means that it must be unboxed to test the hidden.

(10-23-2016 02:45 AM)PurringFox McMillan Wrote:  Not sure where we go next other than I have opened the siblings and hoee to pop the rec Sparkle Dream

PS:

I believe you have mixed up the eyes and threads when posting.
The test you have done here is a Sparkle Dream/Lemon test, not a Crystal Dream/Lemon test, since Crystal Dream was lost two generations ago.

[Kayla Woodrunner]

Yes, Reven is correct. Cee, you did the right test though. Sparkle Dream does need to be tested against Lemon. Now you just need to do the 2nd usual step in dominance testing and pop the hid on the baby to show what the baby hides.

Also, Cee, can you copy and paste your post over in the Sparkle Dream thread? Since it maybe hard to find these days, here's the link

https://kittycats.ws/forum/showthread.php?tid=24931&page=6

[PurringFox McMillan]

(10-23-2016 04:07 PM)Kayla Woodrunner Wrote:  Yes, Reven is correct. Cee, you did the right test though. Sparkle Dream does need to be tested against Lemon. Now you just need to do the 2nd usual step in dominance testing and pop the hid on the baby to show what the baby hides.

Also, Cee, can you copy and paste your post over in the Sparkle Dream thread? Since it maybe hard to find these days, here's the link

https://kittycats.ws/forum/showthread.php?tid=24931&page=6

Babies open waiting for them to grow up

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OMG duh, thanks Reven and Kayla