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Crystal Berry Recessiveness
02-26-2015, 05:13 PM (This post was last modified: 06-13-2016 04:52 AM by Kayla Woodrunner.)
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Crystal Berry Recessiveness
Under the index, Ivy Lane requested, "Can we get a page for the new Crystal Berry eyes? Anyone got info?"

So here we go, if you have a pedigree on Crystal Berry, please post so that we can nail down the dominance/recessiveness. Thanks.

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02-28-2015, 02:02 PM
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RE: Crystal Berry Recessiveness?
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02-28-2015, 04:54 PM
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RE: Crystal Berry Recessiveness?
Thank you Chastity. Your chart implies that Crystal Berry is dominant to Ody Bell (unless the dad threw the hid and hides something more recessive). It's a great start.

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02-28-2015, 05:04 PM
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RE: Crystal Berry Recessiveness?
Nope, Ody bellini is super far back in the pedigree!
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04-08-2015, 05:44 AM
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RE: Crystal Berry Recessiveness?
I have Crystal Berry now, so I'm throwing in another chart.

Crystal Berry is dominant to Royal Sapphire.

Dad has Crystal Berry shown.
Mom Jaylynn has Ody Rainbow shown/Royal Sapphire hid. Since I don't know which was thrown, will assume the hid for now.

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Since Mom obviously has Ody Rainbow shown, I am including a child showing her hid for reference. This child shows Royal Sapphire. This Dad has Ody Bell shown so Royal Sapphire has to be Mom Jaylynn's hid.

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I'll update you once I know if the child hides Ody Rainbow or Royal Sapphire. If someone else already has charts, showing Crystal Berry and any eye dominant to Royal Sapphire, please post it.


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04-09-2015, 08:01 PM (This post was last modified: 04-09-2015 08:02 PM by Kayla Woodrunner.)
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RE: Crystal Berry Recessiveness?
Okay, it turns out Crystal Berry is dominant to Odyssey Rainbow

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You can see Dad has Crystal Berry showing. Mom had Dry Olive showing

Child has Odyssey Rainbow showing. Therefore Ody Rainbow is Dad's hid. Dry Olive is recessive to Ody Rainbow making Olive the child's hid.


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05-10-2015, 04:11 PM
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RE: Crystal Berry Recessiveness?
Saga's chart now shows that

"Crystal berry is dominant to Odyssey Skyline - more info, please"

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08-30-2015, 10:58 PM (This post was last modified: 08-30-2015 11:05 PM by Kayla Woodrunner.)
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RE: Crystal Berry Recessiveness?
So currently Saga says about Crystal Berry

Crystal berry is dominant to Odyssey Skyline and Odyssey Sublime, and recessive to Double Dip Flora

Which means it is between:
Double Dip Flora
Odyssey Dream (Retired) *
Gerbera Orange (Ltd.Ed.)
Gerbera Blue (Ltd.Ed.) Pewter
Gerbera Pink (Ltd.Ed.)
Gerbera Purple (Ltd.Ed.)
Morning Dew (Retired)
Canary *
Mercury * (Retired)
Starry Baby Blues (Ltd.Ed.)
Odyssey Fire & Rain *
Mint Julep
Lemon (Ltd.Ed.)
Wild Cherry (Ltd.Ed.)
BlueBerry (Ltd.Ed.)
Apple (Ltd.Ed.)
Plum (Ltd.Ed.)
HuckleBerry (Ltd.Ed.)
Wild Odyssey (Ltd.Ed.)
Divine (Ltd.Ed.)
Fancie Blue Diamond (Ltd.Ed.)
Platinum * (Retired)
Fancie Teal Diamond (Ltd.Ed.)
Fancie Rose Diamond (Ltd.Ed.)
Fancie Green Diamond (Ltd.Ed.)
Fancie Dusky Diamond (Ltd.Ed.)
Fancie Indigo Diamond (Ltd.Ed.)
Odyssey Wonder
Tapestry Royale
Rainbow Prism * (Retired)
Peach Bellini
Fancie Pink Diamond (Ltd.Ed.)
Odyssey Sublime

That's a pretty big range. I can knock off more than 10 eyes by proving it is dominant to Divine.

Meet Jannie, she has crystal berry eyes showing
? Jannie TrufflesKendrik
Fur: Siamese - Chocolate Tortie
Eyes: Crystal Berry (Curious|Big)
Shade: Blush
Tail: Curious
Ears: Pointed Soft Fold
Whiskers: Black (Swanky)
Size: 44 cm (17.3 inch)

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Now meet Jannie's partner Quint who has Pewter showing, Ody bell hid (By the way you can see Quint in front of the Kittycats store fighting a shark near a raft)

? Quint
Fur: Tonkinese - Blue Mink Tortie
Eyes: Pewter (Mysterious|Small)
Shade: Twinkle
Tail: Curious
Ears: Pointed Soft Fold
Whiskers: 2 Tone Black & White (Fussy)
Size: Normal

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The proof of Quint hiding Ody Bell is complicated since I'd have to prove his dad hides it. Since Quint has a daughter who shows Strawberry Bellini (which is recessive to Divine and Rainbow Prism), I think it is enough to show his daughter and we can take for granted Quint has Strawberry Bell or better (but if it bugs you and you really want to see his dad's hid, I will post the proof, just ask)

Quint's daughter with Strawberry Bell shown

? FrancilleAggie
Fur: Tonkinese - Blue Mink Tortie
Eyes: Strawberry Bellini (Mysterious|Small)
Shade: Twinkle
Tail: Curious
Ears: Odyssey No. 1
Whiskers: Black (Fussy)

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Following me so far?

Now Jannie and Quint had a baby with Divine eyes showing
? JannieAggie
Fur: Foxie - Salt & Pepper Mask
Eyes: Divine (Curious|Big)
Shade: Blush
Tail: Curious
Ears: Mysterious Odyssey Fold
Whiskers: 2 Tone Black & White (Fussy)
Size: Normal

[Image: adebfe114f94eacb1b2dd712bf48b0c5.png]


Because Quint has Pewter showing and his hid has to be Strawberry Bell or more recessive (which I know is Ody Bell)

and since Divine is dominant to Strawberry Bell

Divine has to be Jannie's hid. (Now it happens that Jannie's dad has Divine showing but I still had to prove it against a partner in case her dad threw his hid.) So Crystal Berry is dominant to Divine.

So Crystal Berry is somewhere between Double Dip Flora and Divine


Footnote: I just realized that I didn't have to jump through that extra hoop. All I had to do was show Quint's dad had Rainbow Prism shown which meant Quint's hid had to be Rainbow Prism or more recessive. Rainbow Prism is recessive to Divine anyways. Duh!


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09-20-2015, 05:27 PM
Post: #9
RE: Crystal Berry Recessiveness?
Currently Saga charts says on Crystal Berry

Crystal Berry is dominant to Divine, and recessive to Double Dip Flora

Which puts it in this range

Double Dip Flora
Odyssey Dream (Retired) *
Gerbera Orange (Ltd.Ed.)
Gerbera Blue (Ltd.Ed.)
Gerbera Pink (Ltd.Ed.)
Gerbera Purple (Ltd.Ed.)
Morning Dew (Retired)
Canary *
Mercury * (Retired)
Starry Baby Blues (Ltd.Ed.)
Odyssey Fire & Rain *
Mint Julep
Lemon (Ltd.Ed.)
Wild Cherry (Ltd.Ed.)
BlueBerry (Ltd.Ed.)
Apple (Ltd.Ed.)
Plum (Ltd.Ed.)
HuckleBerry (Ltd.Ed.)
Wild Odyssey (Ltd.Ed.)
Divine (Ltd.Ed.)

I have matched it to Odyssey Fire and Rain and have proof Crystal Berry is dominant to Odyssey Fire and Rain

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Mom shows Fancie Blue Diamond
Dad shows Crystal Berry

Baby shows Odyssey Fire and Rain

Mom's Fancie Blue Diamond is known to be recessive to Ody FireRain so therefore Dad hides Ody FireRain. Therefore Ody FireRain is proven to be recessive to Crystal Berry. That knocks out 9 more eyes

Crystal Berry is now between Double Dip Flora and Odyssey Fire and Rain


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09-23-2015, 04:30 PM
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RE: Crystal Berry Recessiveness?
Currently Saga's charts says

Crystal Berry is dominant to Odyssey Fire & Rain, and recessive to Double Dip Flora

Also

Crystal Crush is dominant to Starry Baby Blues and recessive to Double Dip Flora - more info please. (Halloween 2014 Ltd. Ed. Eye)

This pedigree proves Crystal Crush is dominant to Crystal Berry

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It doesn't narrow anything yet but may later

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