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New Fur Felis Margarita No. 2
04-19-2026, 12:53 PM
Post: #11
RE: New Fur Felis Margarita No. 2
Forgot to mention above.

Currently running tests with starter cats hiding Felis Margarita No. 2 with European Shorthair - Ginger Snap and European Shorthair - Grey & White No. 1.

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04-24-2026, 11:52 AM
Post: #12
RE: New Fur Felis Margarita No. 2
Felis Margarita No. 2 is dominant to European Shorthair Grey and White No 1.

Because Tuscan Terra is recessive to both FM2 and ESGW, the ESGW had to have come from behind FM2:

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04-25-2026, 04:40 PM
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RE: New Fur Felis Margarita No. 2
Thanks for that Ivy. I've pulled my Euro G&W test. Just leaves Ginger Snap.

My starter with Felis 2 has made a Felis 2 kitten with a Ginger Snap mate, kitten is now three days old, just waiting for him to grow up and pull the hid.

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Today, 01:21 AM
Post: #14
RE: New Fur Felis Margarita No. 2
@Eleanor8 Resident sorry if i jumped on your plans i was just going along doing stuff and found out stuff , but now i tested the Ginger Snap too just because of the chart.
First Image shows that Gingersnap is recessive to the Felis Margarita 2 because the Retired European Shorthair Grey and White 1 was pulled from behind the Gingersnap because it could not be hiding behind the Shabby Tabby Midnight.
In conclusion Felis Margarita 2 is dominant to Gingersnap and i believe is now placed?

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Thank you for being you Eleanor i have been grateful from the beginning for your help support kindnesses and education in breeding. I am still blessed by that knowledge Huggles

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Today, 08:08 PM
Post: #15
RE: New Fur Felis Margarita No. 2
Hi Ivy, thank you for your kind words but I don't think that does prove that Felis 2 is dominant to Gingersnap - though I suspect it is from my tests so far - I just don't have the proof. Yet.

To go back to your proof and look at it line by line -

Oliveria Felis 2 (Passion Teacup) is bred with Denver - a Maltese Black Chinchilla

they make a Felis 2 kitten (Jael), now Jael shows Felis 2 but we don't know his hidden fur, except that it isn't Maltese Black Chinchilla (as that is dominant to Felis 2)

Jael is then bred with Ogelsby - a Ginger Snap and they make a Ginger Snap kitten (Cynric)

Cynric is then bred with Yalissa - a Midnight (second most recessive fur on the grid) and they make a Euro - Grey & White kitten. As you said, the Euro - Grey & White can't be Yalissa's hidden fur, so it must be Cynric's.

And therefore it must also be Denver's hidden fur - as it can't have come from anywhere else. So, Jael must be Felis 2 hiding Euro - Grey & White.

This is probably the main reason I prefer to test starter cats that hide the unplaced traits - it's much cleaner.

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This is where I'm up to on my testing. I've both this starter and another working with Ginger Snap mates but the other two kittens produced so far have both been Genesis. I bought Hunter Baby (the Ginger Snap) so can't be sure of his purity - though he's solid Ginger Snap back to his great grand parents, so until I pull Naill's hidden fur I can't be sure if we have Felis 2 placed or not.

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