new eyes Magic Mountain

[Julinah Resident]

new eyes Magic Mountain

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[Sanura Snowpaw]

Congrats So pretty

[DevonDistrict Resident]

The mom is Abraia.

The baby is Ardala with Mountain Magic. [From pretty solid Autumn Leaf background]

Not sure this is a "proof" but a direction to head to, perhaps. Hope it helps!

[Gyazo isnt behaving tonight for me, sorry for attachments..]
   

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(04-02-2025 07:16 PM)DevonDistrict Resident Wrote:  The mom is Abraia.

The baby is Ardala with Mountain Magic. [From pretty solid Autumn Leaf background]

Not sure this is a "proof" but a direction to head to, perhaps. Hope it helps!

[Gyazo isnt behaving tonight for me, sorry for attachments..]

[Arcadiamyst Resident]

Hey there
For a proof to be accepted, it means it has to be 100% certain, with no other possibility . The problem is finding what your Autumn leaf cats are hiding as cats can hide for generations. You would need to prove that Abraia's four different grandparents were all pure AUtumn leaf.
But what you can do if you want to help make a lower range, is breed your new baby to an extremely recessive eye like faded flower and see if you can find what is hiding under Ardala
You would have four possibilities for the kittens
If the second generation babies showed anything dominant to faded flower, but not Mountain magic, that would be a proof that mountain magic is dominant to that hider and give a bottom range.
As julinah got the original against brushed steel, this would definitely be worth trying

[Jessica Brennman]

here are some of my proofs for Magic Mountain

https://kittycats.ws/p?a1c5b66e052904096665

this one twice got same results
https://kittycats.ws/p?b47a33e1252808996696

https://kittycats.ws/p?4572562a752548096745

[Arcadiamyst Resident]

Hi Jessica

We can't see the pedigree links, you will need to screenshot or gyazo them and post the links

[Jessica Brennman]

trying again (not so good at the forums!)


https://gyazo.com/56a22c2a0f97c2876aac1fbe2edbc5a4

https://gyazo.com/2c46ecf17687ae257dafc064d421ce14

https://gyazo.com/4aec339059d8eef8080799532bb20a61

https://gyazo.com/448295f2a7df05043f5fc9145fd0faed

https://gyazo.com/666e3306edd1dc4ddfd349689ee80fbe

https://gyazo.com/307c9959e6f78acd8f99b800515e1287

https://gyazo.com/41c165136931031823001b380953d864

[Songdog Woolley]

(04-05-2025 01:02 PM)Jessica Brennman Wrote:  trying again (not so good at the forums!)


https://gyazo.com/56a22c2a0f97c2876aac1fbe2edbc5a4

https://gyazo.com/2c46ecf17687ae257dafc064d421ce14

https://gyazo.com/4aec339059d8eef8080799532bb20a61

https://gyazo.com/448295f2a7df05043f5fc9145fd0faed

https://gyazo.com/666e3306edd1dc4ddfd349689ee80fbe

https://gyazo.com/307c9959e6f78acd8f99b800515e1287

https://gyazo.com/41c165136931031823001b380953d864

Hey Jess, I'll post what I think here, in the order they are listed:

1.) Magic Mountain passed from the starter, but hides Light Wash or more recessive from mom Stormy. It will be very interesting to see what this cat hides.
2.) Exactly the same as (1).
3.) Showing Magic Mountain with Faded Flower mom. Since Ila's parents are technically young enough to have Imperial Jasper in the line, no proof can be assumed here this far in the pedigree. If you can prove Ila pure Faded Flower or you test against Imperial Jasper, there is still possible information.
4.) Exactly the same as (3).
5.) The starter passed his Gen eye - no Magic Mountain in this kitty.
6.) This kitten is interesting for two reasons: Magic Mountain is showing on the kitten, so she hides Serendipity Stare or more recessive - pulling the hider will tell us something! Also: What eye does grandma Buttercup Nelly hide? Special baby Gar hides Buttercup Nelly's hidden eye under Magic Mountain. Knowing Buttercup Nelly's hidden will give us a lower range.
7.) Again here, proof of Ila being pure Faded Flower is key. She could (hypothetically - but looking at parent and grandparent ages it's possible) hide Imperial Jasper - which was discovered 229 days ago today (so with the parents at 177 and 165, technically possible). You could test Nelly with an Imperial Jasper mate or even a Deep Dive mate (discovered 130 days ago, Ila isn't hiding Deep Dive).

Let me know if I overlooked or was mistaken on any of this. Thank you Jessica, for all the information!

[Jessica Brennman]

Hi Song,
Here is Buttercups most interesting baby, i have gotten nothing else except gen sunflower for her babies, except when paired with Butter then I got the Magic Mountain.
Buttercup

As far as Ila, here is what I have for her, I dont know if this helps.

Ila

I have Imperial Jasper I can test with.

(04-08-2025 05:59 PM)Songdog Woolley Wrote:  

(04-05-2025 01:02 PM)Jessica Brennman Wrote:  trying again (not so good at the forums!)


https://gyazo.com/56a22c2a0f97c2876aac1fbe2edbc5a4

https://gyazo.com/2c46ecf17687ae257dafc064d421ce14

https://gyazo.com/4aec339059d8eef8080799532bb20a61

https://gyazo.com/448295f2a7df05043f5fc9145fd0faed

https://gyazo.com/666e3306edd1dc4ddfd349689ee80fbe

https://gyazo.com/307c9959e6f78acd8f99b800515e1287

https://gyazo.com/41c165136931031823001b380953d864

Hey Jess, I'll post what I think here, in the order they are listed:

1.) Magic Mountain passed from the starter, but hides Light Wash or more recessive from mom Stormy. It will be very interesting to see what this cat hides.
2.) Exactly the same as (1).
3.) Showing Magic Mountain with Faded Flower mom. Since Ila's parents are technically young enough to have Imperial Jasper in the line, no proof can be assumed here this far in the pedigree. If you can prove Ila pure Faded Flower or you test against Imperial Jasper, there is still possible information.
4.) Exactly the same as (3).
5.) The starter passed his Gen eye - no Magic Mountain in this kitty.
6.) This kitten is interesting for two reasons: Magic Mountain is showing on the kitten, so she hides Serendipity Stare or more recessive - pulling the hider will tell us something! Also: What eye does grandma Buttercup Nelly hide? Special baby Gar hides Buttercup Nelly's hidden eye under Magic Mountain. Knowing Buttercup Nelly's hidden will give us a lower range.
7.) Again here, proof of Ila being pure Faded Flower is key. She could (hypothetically - but looking at parent and grandparent ages it's possible) hide Imperial Jasper - which was discovered 229 days ago today (so with the parents at 177 and 165, technically possible). You could test Nelly with an Imperial Jasper mate or even a Deep Dive mate (discovered 130 days ago, Ila isn't hiding Deep Dive).

Let me know if I overlooked or was mistaken on any of this. Thank you Jessica, for all the information!

[Songdog Woolley]

Great! Ila's grandparents on both sides are too old to hide Imperial Jasper, so we do have a lower range: Magic Mountain is dominant to Faded Flower. Buttercup's hidden is actually still a mystery: as Odyssey Rock No. 1 could easily have come from dad Deuterononmy, as it shows on grandma Lucy and is recessive to Grey Matter and could hide on dad. Knowing exactly what Buttercup's hidden eye is will help immensely - it is Ody Rock 1 or more recessive, which will give us a really nice narrow range for Magic Mountain. Thank you for all your help :-)
[quote='Jessica Brennman' pid='162945' dateline='1744210450']

Posting for Jessica: Magic Mountain is dominant to Faded Flower:



Proof Ila can't hide Imperial Jasper (discovered 22 August 2024), as grandparents are too old:



She also can't hide Deep Dive or Fairy Dust, as their discoveries are even more recent.

Thank you for all the info, Jess!