NEW EYE SURPRISE SPARKLE WITH PEDIGREE

[Kayla Woodrunner]

That's awesome! Can't wait!

[kittyclawz Resident]

Hey there,

I bred my two male kittens that was questioned to be hiding the surprise sparkle eye
dad: https://i.gyazo.com/f7fe889788717376cbabfa2b1857cb3d.png
mom: https://i.gyazo.com/42a05f3820440981ed31...c04591.png

1st kitten: https://i.gyazo.com/98f0cf7529ea81d13bbc...21f6c9.png
2nd kitten: https://i.gyazo.com/333b41e6643093a7f910...8caed6.png

The kittens turned out to have ExBreeze eyes, so i bred them with females with OdyBell to see if suprise sparkle would come through
as mentioned above in previous replies this is the turn out:

OdyB test kitten 1: https://gyazo.com/24e1d867d6e52827c87e2aef4e569dae
OdyB test kitten 2: https://gyazo.com/d44fc713d7fd550eb17e9334690a8282

I will continue to breed the kittens if they ARE hiding, but this time with opaline just to test that menthod

Hope this helps!


Kitty

[Arwen Swordthain]

I am a little confused as to why you bred the exotic breeze kitties with Odyssey Bellini kitties as both Exotic Breeze and Surprise Sparkle are recessive to Odyssey Bellini.
In order to check if the Exotic Breeze kitties hide Surprise Sparkle you need to use an eye already proven recessive to Surprise Sparkle which would be Exotic Journey and everything below it in the charts. Opaline will be a good choice for that.

The first OB test kitty gave OB as would be expected, the second gave Exotic Breeze meaning the OB threw the hidden Tranquility or better. Had by chance that cat shown Surprise Sparkle we'd be asking you to check for hidden Tranquility.
When checking hids its always better to use a known recessive rather than rely on both cats passing hid.

Good luck with the Opaline tests with luck one of the cats will pass its hidden for you

(10-05-2017 10:58 AM)kittyclawz Resident Wrote:  Hey there,

I bred my two male kittens that was questioned to be hiding the surprise sparkle eye
dad: https://i.gyazo.com/f7fe889788717376cbabfa2b1857cb3d.png
mom: https://i.gyazo.com/42a05f3820440981ed31...c04591.png

1st kitten: https://i.gyazo.com/98f0cf7529ea81d13bbc...21f6c9.png
2nd kitten: https://i.gyazo.com/333b41e6643093a7f910...8caed6.png

The kittens turned out to have ExBreeze eyes, so i bred them with females with OdyBell to see if suprise sparkle would come through
as mentioned above in previous replies this is the turn out:

OdyB test kitten 1: https://gyazo.com/24e1d867d6e52827c87e2aef4e569dae
OdyB test kitten 2: https://gyazo.com/d44fc713d7fd550eb17e9334690a8282

I will continue to breed the kittens if they ARE hiding, but this time with opaline just to test that menthod

Hope this helps!


Kitty

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So I threw a Destiny Rivers with a Surprise Sparkle just because and got this.



I'll pop and check hid of course and cross post to the other thread.

[kittyclawz Resident]

kitten #1
https://i.gyazo.com/6b0e6c8675de992d4cac...e31640.png

kitten #2
https://i.gyazo.com/6b0e6c8675de992d4cac...e31640.png

the two exb kittens i got from a surprise sparkle and exbreeze didnt pass the eye with opaline, may need afew goes i'll keep you updated

[Ivy Norsk]

Thank you kittyclawz. This happens all the time... the stubborn kitties throw their shown, not their hidden. Better luck next week!

[Arwen Swordthain]

The kitties are indeed stubborn, it took me over 6 months to get a pedigree for Kaylas Library because the 2 cats refused to pass shown at the same time so every test kitty hid the wrong eye. But stick with it, they will give it up eventually.

[kittyclawz Resident]

bred my two exb kitties that may hide surprise sparkle with opaline and got exb eye back.. i will keep trying

kitten 1:


kitten 2:

[ReecePie Resident]

I Breed my Surprise Sparkle with Soul Whisper: Got Galaxy Star. Here are the pedigree's. also here is a pic not sure how to make it show http://prntscr.com/hcl5tx


Mom: https://kittycats.ws/p.php?a266e8dd-2302123-26433 - Surprise Sparkle

Dad: https://kittycats.ws/p.php?cf3cce06-4298945-26478 - Soul Whisper

Baby: https://kittycats.ws/p.php?fb1f881e-d310450-26518 - Galaxy Star

I can only breed one more time with mom then she is done, any suggestions you guys would like for me to try?????

[Arwen Swordthain]

Reece unfortunately pedigree links expire after 30 minutes so we are unable to see any of the pedigrees you posted apart from the prntscr one.

Surprise Sparkles range is currently Recessive to Odyssey Bellini and dominant to Exotic Journey, your pedigree confirms dominant to Galaxy Star. If you want to test further any of the eyes in that range would be a good one to try with her before she retires.

reposting your picture inline as well

(11-19-2017 03:23 PM)ReecePie Resident Wrote:  I Breed my Surprise Sparkle with Soul Whisper: Got Galaxy Star. Here are the pedigree's. also here is a pic not sure how to make it show http://prntscr.com/hcl5tx


Mom: https://kittycats.ws/p.php?a266e8dd-2302123-26433 - Surprise Sparkle

Dad: https://kittycats.ws/p.php?cf3cce06-4298945-26478 - Soul Whisper

Baby: https://kittycats.ws/p.php?fb1f881e-d310450-26518 - Galaxy Star

I can only breed one more time with mom then she is done, any suggestions you guys would like for me to try?????

[Ivy Norsk]

Surprise Sparkle is recessive to Exotic Breeze

I know several people were working on this proof. I finally got some babies to pop the answer.



It's a straightforward proof: I mated a Surprise Sparkle boy with an Exotic Breeze girl, and they produced (a number of) Exotic Breeze showing kittens. When one of their offspring was mated with a recessive-eyed Galaxy Star, it pulls the hidden which is the Surprise Sparkle.

This cuts the range by a bit less than half. Surprise Sparke lies between Exotic Breeze and Exotic Journey. I am testing versus Tranquility next.