KittyCatS! Market Improvement Suggestions

[phoenixfire01 Resident]

(10-05-2014 12:07 PM)SAMSMlTH Resident Wrote:  I believe this thread is a cry for help. KC needs to make their loyal customer base the focal point of their business. Without us they will have no business. SS

And in which way would you have them do this ? We already get things for free. I know as a breeder and Auction attendee the free repackers are a god send.

[Magnum Vaher]

alot of good points have been made here...
and its true it has been slow.. really slow.. but after breeding KC for three years and i look back ...
from easter to Nov it is alllllways slow.. and always has been ... every year at this time i cut my cats back in half...
but this year has been slower then the last few years.. and i dont really know what could be done to help it ...
maybe a costumer appreciation WEEK would be good or somthing ..
who knows...

[SAMSMlTH Resident]

With new releases huge breeders were able to successfully pull new traits from starters in a short period of time. They flooded the secondary market with new traits that were soon devalued. I would ask them to stop the massive release of traits, that devalues existing traits and furs. SS

[Magnum Vaher]

how are ya gonna force breeders ... who pay for the cats .... to stop breeding them ??? and if KC lowered the percentage of New traits that the servers release.. they will loose sales in there starters/collectors?? its a vicious circle! lol ... Im probably a huge breeder that you can hate on ... lol i have broad shoulders ... no worries!

[Ivy Norsk]

I agree with many of the comments here. I think, and have stated before, that it is manifest to everybody that this is all about supply and demand and the supply of cats on the grid massively exceeds demand. I think that all of these issues should be dealt with as an economic system without bringing any personal feeling or personal ill-will into it at all. Competition and stress can bring out the worst in people, but I think we can agree that personal sniping will not fix anything (and it also didn't cause anything). I think that bringing the issue of auctions into this is a separate issue since those auction cats would be for sale anyway and that the issue of more auctions than the market can bear, lack of attendance at auctions, etc. is just an illustration or subset of the larger problems as a whole: the auction issue is real, but taking care of the supply/demand imbalance as a whole should help with the auction issue.

I have said before and will say again, the menagerie end needs to be sweetened. TAKE THE CATS OFF THE GRID.
This is an issue that does devolve entirely to KittyCatS HQ. They really do need to worry about killing the Golden Goose. Bringing more people into the KittyCatS hobby does bring in more buyers, but also creates a greater supply of cats - and I suspect that balance hurts the markets more than it helps - but it does sell more catfood. I would favor keeping the sales of LE collectibles at the store to 2 weeks. Reign in the supply.

Side issue: permapetting. I have argued elsewhere that HQ keeps the price up in order to keep the resale price of permapets high. But, I would, in fact, argue in favor of permapet potion sale. Really, that would help reward breeders. They would appreciate it. It would be a thank you. And honestly, most people want to permapet their favorite cats for personal enjoyment. A lot of permapetted cats Never hit the resale market. And I don't believe a limited sale of the potion would hurt overall. (Yes, a few large breeders would stock up, but a time limit on the sale would keep it from being systemic.)

There is the looming issue of SL2. Do the cats continue onto the new grid? (I hope so.) What does HQ even know about LindenLab's progress? How is this going to affect supply/demand, the continued existence of collectibles... etc. Why should we permapet if the cats are going away? Is the new grid an opportunity to address supply/demand issues? These are questions for which not all the answers are known. But their answers, as soon as they are known, will affect the KittyCats economy.

[Draco Nacht]

Maybe a new menagerie kitty to encourage people getting cats off the grid would help?

[Ryanna Enfield]

(10-05-2014 12:45 PM)Draco Nacht Wrote:  Maybe a new menagerie kitty to encourage people getting cats off the grid would help?

I posted my comments in the other thread, but this please! Sweeten up the menagerie to get the economy moving.

[Ayaami Resident]

I too am all for a new menagerie kitty!

I would also suggest that if/when purchasing food and milk using only K$ balance(menagerie$), it would be a reasonable percentage off.

[Ziyal Ochs]

Well my thought is...

... Yes, there are too many auctions. However if one marketplace starts laying off auction times not a week later some other marketplace will take the time. To get this under control I suggest we work something out in the co-op. We have recently given two spots to the Co-Op, and I think it has already been filled... Maybe the Co-Op could work out some sort of arrangement.

... Yes, the amount of breeders has exploded. Which is also why I think that it is KC's turn to help the market. Not because I want them to earn less but because the food and sales value ratio just is too far apart right now. I know it is hard to lower prices, and setting them up at a later time, can ruin your buisness, so I think the idea of food and milk sales during LE would be good. And yes, there should be a limit to reduce hording. Maybe make a pack of X amount food on sale per LE you buy... so those who buy many can have the food for them at a favorable price and those who buy only a few... well the same thing. Not sure if that is enough to prevent hording.

... Yes, the menageri value should be set up, that could for sure be a way out of this mess. If KC would do that I would get back to breeding. I stopped breeding because I breed what I like, unfortunately what I like are red tabbies and no-one buys red tabbies at a reasonable price, and since I had to stop uploading linden due to rl I had to stop my hobby. So thausend times yes to that one... I would like to breed my red tabbies again

... I am sad to see that some people already have judged the Co-Op to be a miss. Yes there have been some starter problems and a little more structure would be nice, however it is a first step towards working together. I really hope that we can pull together all of us, that includes KC, and make the Kitty breeding fun again.

... I think events on ALL the different marketplaces would be awesome... I mean I wouldn't want to host the Q&A (let's leave that to the pros) but I would sure love it if it were held on our sim. But other events would be great too

... As a collar creator I would love a permanent bigger packege... I usually create collars in 19 different colors and the biggest pack we can get is 20 collars.

[Dario Maesar]

I think, the amount of people who started with Kittycats has grown a lot from the time they had been released to the grid as a new interactive breedable kitty. In the same amount the cats breeded have grown and of course the price does drop with so many breeder around. Especially the new breeder always have problems to get into the market, the prices and to know what is a good cat, what not. Therefore they are the people that just can't see the value of a well traited cat... not because they are ignorant, but because no one is taking their hand and helping them to see what this works like. Support for the newbies is a very important part and how often do i hear from newbies that have been ripped off or wrongly adviced. The newbie today, is the customer of tomorrow....

In general, it would help if the cats stop being able to make so many offsprings, somehow reduce the cats flooding the market. On the other hand, people more and more stop wanting to upload money into SL so that you basically spend just the money you somehow made within SL. This being said, much money goes for food... it would surely help to make a better price on the cat food...but that alone is not it. I heared rumors that SL-2 is in discussion...this makes a lot of people insecure, not knowing if and how they can transfer what they have here now on this SL. Then again, also lots of money goes down for rentals (not just marketplace rentals but also private rentals) and then you can't even be sure you will sell anything.

The markets themselves are really good to display your cats, if you look for something special, a marketplace for cats is perfect to look for your dream cats. But then, what is the point display your cat in a store rental if you get it even cheaper on an auction. There needs to be a good balance between auctions and rentals. But as soon as some auction place gives up times, another market jumps right onto the time, this won't reduce the auction amount just spreading it differently.

I am an auctioneer myself and I do want to size down to just one auction per week... but i know if i was to do this step actually, another auctioneer would quickly do it instead of me. However, people are being tired, going to auctions no longer is fun, it's a hassle. You rush from the 11 a.m auction to the 12 p.m auction to the 2 p.m auction to the 4 p.m auction... no time to look for the cottages and stalls, must hurry to the next auction. Where is the fun in it? What about some dance events with cats, dress up contests and party time? Relax and make people remember why KC is so great.

But to return back to the original point of Unicorn's discussion...KittyCatS themselves, they have come down with a lot of inovativ ideas to enhance their pets. I do understand KittyCatS don't want to mess with the marketsplaces stuff and the pricing and I do believe its good to keep out of it, but there are other things that can be done. I would love seing KC going from sim to sim for the Q+A's or do fishings on the markets instead of their mainstore.... make a 50 pack of food for an even better price or reduce the amount of breeds a cat can have and much more would be thinkable...

Well so much my five cents...

Dario