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More Cancellations .... what's going on breeders ??
08-27-2015, 10:03 AM
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RE: More Cancellations .... what's going on breeders ??
(08-26-2015 10:36 PM)Kayleigh McMillan Wrote:  Hm, I didn't know auctioneers tell bluntly kitties are not good enough lately!
It makes sort of sense on the other hand I absolutely don't like a job in which I need to burn down an other's tender love and care and it is so subjective too.

Must be shocking for newcomers who are used to Addicts chat where every kitty gets the same amount of hooray's.

I think, and I always have done it that way, people should really breed for combinations they like.
Those kitties are often valued for their esthetics.
Maybe not by auctioneers, perhaps they look for the latest and the greatest even if it has one desired trait with a hyper recessive hidden, but there is certainly market for pretty.

I only dig up money if a new trait is pure and if I feel it is pretty and I can easily implement it in a line.
Or when a kitty is so gorgeous that I just urge it.
The latest and the greatest will be old news soon enough and only the fact that the trait is considerd pretty or not remains in peoples memory (also totally subjective ofcourse).
If it is not liked much the trait is doomed to dissapear by it's ultra recessive hidden.
Sadly many people tend to only love recessive while there are so many gorgeous traits on the dominant end..

I can't say no to a well bred pure new trait if I like it and I don't care if it is dominant or recessive I even slightly prefer dominant traits and to combine old furs with new traits.
I prefer that because soon the market will be bombed with the recessive to the point we have seen it more than enough.
Most people do not take the time to breed a trait pure as it cost more time and time is money.
By the time a pure trait is established it is old news again.
I always think those boxes sit good in my cattery till people have totally forgotten that trait even existed.
At those moments I used to have the buyers and for good lindens too.
It costs some patience though keeping a hold on your pure trait, what once was a hot trait, in a lovely combination.
I would not want to breed an other way though it is just not my game.

Nowadays I have so many boxes in my cattery but I am done with selling them on the market.
I purely breed for fun these days and only a very few kitties.
My kitty boxes I use to implement in other projects for which they are so useful.
I just so love these furballs and I blame the entire KC team wholeheartedly they've made these buggers so cute! Smile

*Snuggles her new born for listening so well Heart

Yes Kay, auctioneers have been telling ppl if a kitty is good enough for a long time. Here's a little ancient history. lol Back in the day I had a kitty hiding bali flame. Hiders sold for at least 25k. (at least) The auctioneer was quite rude and left me an offline message that my kitty was a dud and that I needed something better to be in his auction. Someone explained the value of the kitty to him and with no apology, just an awkward, someone told me it's ok, said I could put the hider in. I really didn't want to, but I put the kitty in anyway. There were a number of new ppl at the auction that had no idea what the kitty was. The auctioneer said it hid things that it didn't and said that it was the shown fur, which it wasn't. I kept correcting him in open chat. It was a nightmare. It didn't sell, but worked out in my favor since I put it with a sibling that pulled all the traits I wanted it to have. And a surprise shade.

I am going to stop pussy footing around and just state facts. (I really try not to offend, but I do think there are things that need to be said)

Some ppl auctioneer because they have fun with it and enjoy helping others. That shows in the work they put into it. Some ppl just want to make a buck. If you don't know what you're doing and just want to make a buck, you should find another way to work in sl. If you really want to be competitive, be kinder and more respectful, put more of an effort into it, and most of all, enjoy what you're doing, that really does show.

The more you wave those jaw bones around, the more you hurt the business. The more you turn ppl off to the idea of putting kitties in auctions and the more fun you take out of them. Someone comes to you with a kitty they're proud of. Telling them it's a *dud and not worthy in a rude way, turns them off. Makes them feel stupid and leery of ever putting a kitty in an auction. And eventually that new person is going to learn how to breed and make kitties that ppl will fall over each other for. But you've made it hard for them to feel comfortable and confident enough to participate in an auction.

I am not a new person in the world of breeding, but I have to tell you, after some of the nightmares I've had with auctions and some auctioneers, it's made me leery and has turned me off to put one in.

If you feel you have to attack others for time slots, suck it up and find something else to do. When a time slot opens up, (because not everyone makes it) then give it a try when you're feeling less aggressive.

I've seen auctions that were full of newer ppl and their kitties. No one got rich, but all the kitties sold and everyone had a good time and learned. There can be two kinds of auctions. The ones for the elite kitties, and the ones for the fun kitties. Sometimes those fun kitties can have some nice surprises. Sometimes you can make friends and help them learn. That's what it should be about. Buying nice kitties, buying fun kitties, making friends and having fun.

Your idea Ms Magick, for selling panels at the last min would be great for fun auctions. But it wouldn't work for others, because the auctioneer needs time to do their job. Advertising, setting up displays, and so forth.

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