Please Be Carefull !!

[anna Acanthus]

OK i get you now !

Well, sure a hidden can remain hidden through quite a few generations and it has always been the hidden trait down throughout the generations, i've had some cool surprises like this myself.

As for the line - So when two cats breed, they both pass either their hidden or visible trait, and the kitten will have the more dominant of those two traits as the shown trait, and the less dominant as the hidden trait. - i read this as in the case of two different traits breeding together - the dom will show and the rec. will be hidden - but not as in my example case : a shown can pull a shown and for me this statement doesn't mean that the OS must be hiding one of it's parents more reccessive hiddens : they pass either their shown or hidden traits and so Black can just as well be the hidden as Flame could be.

I know i don't say IMHO when i spout but it's there and if i'm wrong about this well it sure won't be the first time, or the last

Anyhow the essential point about my post is that cases like these cannot be guaranteed to carry the parent's hidden.