Jumping in the deep end...

[anna Acanthus]

Lol Adana, i don't need to answer really as you seem to have worked it out correctly on your own.
But yes, what has happened in Karloff's case is much less likely, about 25% chance of it happening i think, but someone else can maybe step in with the actual figures - i don't take much notice of these in fact, i just cross my fingers and hope for the best on my long shots.

Sometimes, if i see a couple of strongly traited grandparents each side of a pedigree this will decide me to buy as i know that even if some of them haven't shown in the grandchild or be evident in the two parents they may have been carried through as hidden, so there may be at least one nice plus lurking in there.