Please Be Carefull !!

[anna Acanthus]

I'm quoting this post from relatively new breeder from a different thread ( http://kittycats.biz/forum/showthread.ph...424&page=3 ) as it eloquently sums up most of the points that had been discussed in this thread :

(04-20-2014 10:52 PM)EmberMichaels Resident Wrote:  I will admit I have not read every post in this thread so if I am simply repeating what other people have pointed out I apologize.

I personally have huge issue with people who place cats for sale and say for example "hides snowshoe cream." Then leave no pedigree link to be viewed by the potential buyer.

Hides is very confusing for new breeders, who easily trust those who have been doing it much longer and seem wiser.

My best advice .. never buy a cat because someone claims it "hides" without a pedigree link, as well if you aren't 100pct sure if it really does. Ask a friend to help.

Nothing makes me madder then a wet hen, or wet cat .. as when I see "My dad was a Bengal black." On a salt and pepper shown.

Sure Dad was a Bengal black .. but that doesn't mean anything .. the Recessive has come over top of the dominant .. black Bengal is lost... you will never get a Black Bengal from that unless you breed it with a Black Bengal or a Black Bengal proven hider and manage to breed out the black Bengal fur from the mate of the salt and pepper.

Just as the market is down right now I see a lot of cats misrepresented .. perhaps some just don't know better but I see names of other I know do.

We were all new breeders once, we all bought the wrong cats for the wrong prices once.

It just drives me batty when I see things like this .. I imagine some poor new breeder buying this cat with hopes and dreams of a fur .. and can never get one from the cat.
Wasting food and milk and feeling disappointment and questioning what they are doing wrong because they just don't understand. This cat's dad was a Black Bengal .. why am I not getting one?

I speak from experience on this, after being sold a cat I was told hid Bengal black that was a shown Salt and Pepper .. I started KittyCats right around the time the Christmas Cats came out. Someone even sold me a Silent Night Assuring me the costume was the fur and if bred right I would get that fur/costume on every kitten.

So I speak from the bitterness of someone who was a naïve new breeder, and out of concern for new breeders NOT to make my mistakes and waste the 10's of thousands of Lindens I did on bad cats. It wasn't until I found friends, they know they are who took the time to be patient and help me that I could afford to buy the newish .. furs because I wasn't wasting my money on poorly traited cats, feeding them all and opening all the boxes because they were so cute. It was only after meeting these people that I learned how to manage (almost) the addiction to at least get close to supporting my cats within sl and not having to put smoke on my credit card for the hobby I love.

That 5k you're charging someone for that cat that's only worth 700, that could be someone's coffee money for a week... you know come on people .. it's pretend money but it costs real money to buy.

Misrepresent a cat when you know better ... you might as well steal a kids lunch money or grab that old ladies purse. For all you know it is some kids lunch money.

Same goes for cats I see on bid boards stating "My Dad was a Mega." ... how nice .. so what ... sizes don't pass and there are people out there who do not yet understand this.

Those who don't know ... ask for help if you're not sure that cats worth 1500l
Those who know better stop it.
And look me up if you don't have anyone to ask .. if I'm online and you don't know if a cat hides something, or if its bs ... ask me .. I will help to the absolute best of my ability.

Am I kitty cats Guru? Far from it, but I'll share what I know.

I am tired of meeting people who have been taken advantage of, sold cats and told to breed them that they cannot even make kittens that would cover mom and dad's food if they actually managed to sell them.

Yes it is a buyer beware market, but I wish it didn't have to be for new breeders.

95 pct of people I have met and interact in kitty cats have been wonderful and gone out of their way to help me not make the mistakes I made as new breeders... It's the 5pct that really sour the pot.

Just My Two Cents

[Lea Solaris Morrison

I'd just mention that some of the 5% aren't familiar enough with the system to know better yet, and also they and others may not know how to activate the pedigree.
All the same, if, as a seller, you aren't yet sure of yourself then please refrain from making claims of this nature.

Above all and for the umpteenth time if, as a buyer you don't have sure proof of the claimed hiddens, do NOT throw your money away but get help from someone who DOES know first.