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Please Be Carefull !!
03-27-2014, 12:40 PM
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I have a question that goes along with this thread. How do you know for certain that a trait is hiding?

Here's my example. I have a Snowshoe Cream boy, Baron. For the longest time, I had no other Snowshoe Creams, so bred him to my best furs at the time, which were Balinese Cream and Foxie Salt & Pepper. Two of his kittens have shown furs other than his own, and in both cases I *think* his fur is hiding, but I'd like someone else to verify that I'm thinking along the right lines.

His first daughter, Libera, shows her mother's Balinese Cream. Mom also has Foxie Salt & Pepper in the background, but if the mom gave the shown trait, then the hidden has to come from dad, right? Looking at Baron's pedigree, I see Foxie in the background there, too, but since he shows the Snowshoe Cream fur, he could not be passing Foxie Salt & Pepper. Therefore, I've concluded that Libera hides Snowshoe Cream. However, of all Baron's kittens, I'm least confident in her hidden fur because, thus far, she has never produced a Snowshoe Cream, even with back-breeding. All her kittens are Balinese Creams.

His second daughter, Cynthia, shows her mother's Foxie Salt & Pepper (different mother from Libera). I presumed that since mom had to have passed that, Cynthia's hidden fur is her dad's Snowshoe Cream. I am more confident in this assumption because Cynthia has produced Snowshoe Cream kittens through back-breeding.

I am currently cutting down on cattery size and so selling off my "hiders" now that I have enough cats with shown Snowshoe Cream. Am I correct in advertising both Libera and Cynthia as "hiders" in this case?

Thanks very much for any help I get on this, and I hope I haven't derailed too much!

Libera's Pedigree: http://i.gyazo.com/cb3f030e9ed84ad4defd6ebd0c586472.png
Cynthia's Pedigree: http://i.gyazo.com/ca1bef1c77c59d6df696ac95f4bde4bf.png

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Please Be Carefull !! - anna acanthus - 01-31-2012, 06:58 AM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - Saga Felix - 01-31-2012, 06:08 PM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - anna acanthus - 02-02-2012, 12:40 PM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - Liriel Garnet - 02-05-2012, 10:58 AM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - Rocky Balzibo - 02-05-2012, 07:03 PM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - anna acanthus - 02-09-2012, 05:36 AM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - Malicia Python - 02-16-2012, 02:17 AM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - anna acanthus - 02-16-2012, 05:36 AM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - Saga Felix - 02-16-2012, 06:50 AM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - anna acanthus - 02-16-2012, 07:32 AM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - Malicia Python - 02-16-2012, 10:23 AM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - Sanura Snowpaw - 02-16-2012, 08:53 PM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - anna acanthus - 02-24-2012, 05:37 AM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - Khea Karas - 02-24-2012, 10:34 AM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - anna acanthus - 02-24-2012, 11:48 AM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - Liriel Garnet - 02-24-2012, 08:08 PM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - anna acanthus - 02-25-2012, 01:53 AM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - Khea Karas - 02-24-2012, 12:24 PM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - anna acanthus - 02-24-2012, 01:03 PM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - Khea Karas - 02-24-2012, 01:31 PM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - Saga Felix - 02-24-2012, 02:23 PM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - anna acanthus - 02-24-2012, 03:47 PM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - Nenya Eun - 02-25-2012, 07:35 AM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - Saga Felix - 02-25-2012, 10:35 AM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - Khea Karas - 02-25-2012, 11:17 AM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - Saga Felix - 02-25-2012, 03:26 PM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - Khea Karas - 02-25-2012, 04:08 PM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - anna acanthus - 10-26-2012, 07:11 AM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - Brandon Dawson - 10-26-2012, 07:14 AM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - Saga Felix - 10-26-2012, 09:32 AM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - Bea Shamrock - 10-27-2012, 06:41 AM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - Bea Shamrock - 10-27-2012, 01:12 PM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - Dario Maesar - 10-27-2012, 02:29 PM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - Bea Shamrock - 10-28-2012, 05:05 PM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - anna acanthus - 04-29-2013, 01:38 AM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - anna acanthus - 04-29-2013, 05:32 AM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - Tad Carlucci - 04-29-2013, 06:05 AM
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RE: Please Be Carefull !! - Liriel Garnet - 04-30-2013, 11:16 AM
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RE: Please Be Carefull !! - Chance Ryada - 05-13-2013, 04:14 AM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - Liriel Garnet - 06-01-2013, 06:50 PM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - anna acanthus - 06-02-2013, 03:20 AM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - Wendi Lavendel - 06-06-2013, 05:46 PM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - Wendi Lavendel - 06-06-2013, 07:23 PM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - Tad Carlucci - 06-06-2013, 06:30 PM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - Liriel Garnet - 09-06-2013, 02:07 PM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - anna acanthus - 11-04-2013, 06:18 AM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - anna acanthus - 01-26-2014, 03:18 AM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - Tad Carlucci - 01-27-2014, 04:35 AM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - Crepe Myrtle - 01-27-2014, 07:24 AM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - anna acanthus - 01-27-2014, 09:05 AM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - Crepe Myrtle - 01-27-2014, 10:07 AM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - anna acanthus - 01-27-2014, 11:24 AM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - Ivy Norsk - 01-27-2014, 11:31 AM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - Damian Amulet - 01-27-2014, 11:53 AM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - anna acanthus - 03-25-2014, 09:43 AM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - MiuKitten Resident - 03-27-2014 12:40 PM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - anna acanthus - 03-27-2014, 03:52 PM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - anna acanthus - 04-21-2014, 01:24 AM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - Hathor Xaris - 04-21-2014, 12:50 PM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - Hathor Xaris - 04-21-2014, 02:05 PM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - Adana Ember - 05-18-2014, 01:05 PM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - Adana Ember - 05-18-2014, 01:54 PM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - Dimpz Morane - 05-25-2014, 10:10 AM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - Wendi Lavendel - 05-25-2014, 06:53 PM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - anna acanthus - 05-19-2014, 11:41 PM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - anna acanthus - 05-20-2014, 08:39 AM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - Tad Carlucci - 05-20-2014, 05:36 AM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - anna acanthus - 05-20-2014, 07:57 AM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - Tad Carlucci - 05-20-2014, 08:10 AM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - Ivy Norsk - 05-21-2014, 11:17 AM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - Dimpz Morane - 05-21-2014, 01:22 PM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - Deer Thistle - 05-21-2014, 03:45 PM
RE: Please Be Carefull !! - anna acanthus - 09-03-2014, 02:55 AM
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