Asking, pleading for kittys to gain love from day one.

[Ethereal Hurricane]

@the legendary saga

You don't have to discuss anything to go show your suppose for your friends. Let's not bicker over details, you and Khea share a stall together on too adorable, you're clearly more than just acquaintances, but that's one assumption, the other would be that she literally gives you a thanks, on basically every post you make, such as the one you just did, which was nothing more than you talking to me, which I guess deserves a thanks?

Play stupid all you guys want, you're all friends, and you're doing what friends do, defend each other. If I've ever openly 'attacked' you guys, as you seem to think I'm doing, it's because you guys provoked it. You, Khea, and Anne seem to think every time I post, its to insult someone, when in fact my first post was this....

(11-25-2012 03:34 AM)Ethereal Hurricane Wrote:  I'd wager the reason they don't change it when people ask, is because they need to have a buffer between when your new generations can breed, and all it takes is them bending to change one time, and people will just ask for the next thing.

If they make it so cats gain love right away, in a few months people will just start asking for it to take 5 days instead of 10 days, and then 1 day instead of 5 days, and so on. You might say "That's just silly", but history in ANY situation like this, proves, that's what will, in fact, happen.

Tell me how that was being mean, or disrespectful to penfold? Please....show me.

Oh maybe it was my second post...lets see

(11-25-2012 09:45 PM)Ethereal Hurricane Wrote:  

(11-25-2012 03:12 PM)Khea Karas Wrote:  I agree with Penfold. Its much easier to pair kittens back to parents if it takes only 7 days (one breeding cycle) to reach breeding age than to wait approx 14 days (2 breeding cycles). Cutting back breeding lifespan to accommodate the extra week would be a good compromise. It will not change how many kittens a cat breeds, just let them breed their first time sooner.

Its funny because this topic has been bought up before and alot of people then agreed it would be a great idea when Saga mentioned this. How people change their minds....just saying

The point of the extra seven days is so that you CAN'T just make it simple and easy to breed back to the parent. Everyone trying to make a case for the change to be made is only suggesting it because it would make things easier. It's already easy, why does it need to be easier?

Heck, in the current state of KittyCatS, you don't even have to try anymore to discover hidden traits, because the most recessive furs/eyes/ears/whiskers/etc can be found on cats probably just sitting at the love shack because their owner has 100 of the same thing. Making things easier is unnecessary.

I'm tired of people asking for changes just so things are easier, and breeding takes less time. This isn't the land of everyone deserves to have everything instantly. Earn your cats. Everyone else plays the waiting game, so can you.

And just FYI, not everyone agrees every time saga says something
http://www.kittycats.biz/forum/showthrea...363&page=1


* obligatory statement to follow*

Let the kittens grow and mature, you wouldn't want your real kid stepping foot out of the womb, already ready for sex would you?

(Sorry for quoting you again Khea...I had to though to prove a point...)

Man look how I just attack people in that one, I mentioned someone's name as a response to a quoted text, see how I just ruthlessly lay into all the posters above me as well? Man they deserved it so bad...and yet I manage to basically stay 100% on topic...CRAZYYYYY

/sarcasm off

Well since we're this far, lets check out my next post...

(11-27-2012 02:42 AM)Ethereal Hurricane Wrote:  

(11-26-2012 08:34 PM)dakillakm Resident Wrote:  Well, let me not insinuate; I was talking about the cranky ratings troll, Ethereal muhahaha But, let me say that it is easy to misread the tone of things, and I think Ethereal was only expressing her frustration at people wanting easy and instant gratification in a general manner. However, when one is sick and sleepy and frustrated with her stubborn kitties it is easy to take a little offense at the suggestion that wanting things to be more convenient is, necessarily, wanting things to be handed to you.

Well first off, thank you for bestowing upon me, the glorious title of 'Cranky Ratings Troll". I have worked night and day, day and night, hitting that 1 star rating on every post I see, tirelessly, endlessly, to attain the prestigious...yeah I'm done with that....

Hopefully you didn't take me seriously when I suggested that I would actually waste my time down-voting threads (that is not to say that I've never 1 starred a thread before, I have). I could care less for the most part what people post, and I post very openly against people, and hold no grudges. I would rather get my post edited by Callie and speak my mind, than downrate a thread for a malicious reason.

Now, that's cleared up, back to business!

I'm against threads like this for one reason; no one has yet offered an idea that would suggest it would be better for the community as a whole to allow this type of change. No matter how you try to string it along, the change is only beneficial to the individual breeder. People try to argue that if you get an early breed, just take it off the end of the cats life, sure, that's all well and good in simple a+b=c rudimentary math (yeah, that's a call back to an old thread....), but when you get down to it, a cat is more valuable at the beginning of its life, not at the end. 100 days later that cat probably has great great grand kids, with better traits. So that alone makes the change not fair and balanced. This type of change has no real benefit other than breeding early.

People who suggest these ideas don't look at the big picture, they look at the simple, instant effect, and disregard anything long term. The last thread like this died with no 'real' solid ideas for why or how this change should be made, and this thread will most likely die the same way. This is why I shoot ideas like this down, because they're not good. I'm sorry if that is offensive to the people suggesting them, but hey, not every idea ever thought of is good. ^__^

With Love,
Your friendly neighborhood Cranky Ratings Troll <3

Hey look, I'm joking here with someone, I explain it's a joke, then I move back onto the topic....I'm so malicious it kills me! I even clearly explain why I'm against the idea....so brutal!

(in the spirit of saving space....I'll just link to my next post)
http://www.kittycats.biz/forum/showthrea...2#pid19292

Man in that one I respond to everyone who has mentioned me, then I get to Khea, who is clearly upset that I quoted her and I apparently called her a bunch of bad names or something, because she was so seriously angry with me for quoting her in a forum...on the internet...

Which again...I poke fun at, because it's just silly at this point, on this post here:
http://www.kittycats.biz/forum/showthrea...5#pid19295

And after that post, I'm clearly just defending myself while throwing the fire back at people...and then I go back to the topic at hand....which as I understand it, is proper forum etiquette. Not just crying that someone is bothering them, then huffing and puffing.

Anyway, you guys are welcome to keep it up, I really don't mind. You've called me a troll, which is funny, because in my opinion you're just trolling yourselves. You get mad at me for posting, then ragepost some worthless response, usually not even based on anything I wrote.

I'll leave you guys to your world of everyone must agree with you.

Oh btw, if you wanted help learning how to not be a _______, I sell lessons. For example, here is a free one in common decency: notice how when I respond to devilness...

(11-28-2012 07:32 PM)Ethereal Hurricane Wrote:  Anyway, back to the thread, I agree with you devilness, surprisingly, but the problem is, there ARE people who are just out to make a buck, and IMO, this type of thing would help that along, as seen by some responses in this thread, about how cats are valued, and traits dropping in price.

Making a change just so people can make more money, would be wrong, and that's how I've read it out to be. Saga mentioned that traits become less valuable, and you lose your return on them before you can get them worked in. Not to be contradict myself, but isn't that line of thinking purely from an economic standpoint? You're saying this change should happen so people don't lose their money on an investment? I said this change shouldn't be made because it would change the economy. That isn't a good reason to make a change.

I actually said I liked her idea, which I did, but then I try to explain why I -THINK- it would be bad, anyone is free to refute me, but at least I showed devilness some respect before disagreeing with her, I didn't just get pissed off and make a ragepost)

I'd also like to point out just one thing. Since thank's seem to mean something to you guys...I wonder why I have so many thanks given, when I have so little posts compared to you all. I wonder if people, besides you guys obviously, maybe like or agree with what I have to say....who knows though. I clearly don't have any friends on this forum as I just go around attacking everyone, so by your logic I actually earned all mine, rather just having my friends +1 me for nothing....

:@ANGRY

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(11-28-2012 10:45 PM)dakillakm Resident Wrote:  I just had a revelation and it involved understanding the mathematically complex brain of Tad! Surely this is a breakthrough worth getting back on topic for XD

LOL well you got one over on me then, just when I think I understand Tad, he posts again, and then I'm lost again >.<

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(11-28-2012 10:33 PM)penfold83 Resident Wrote:  Ekkk i never knew one little idea would get heated up like this, please ethereal it not a my gang says this your gang says that ie bandwagon sigh.

I really hopped this thread would be a idea thing let peeps meet in the middle, rejuvenate a idea that was looked past before.
It would of been nice for to no's and the yes's peeps too meet in the middle and put forward the case......How so wrong i thought (

Hey it's okay Penfold, I'm all for this idea IF it can be done without having negative side effects. I think it would be nice to be able to breed earlier, as I've said before, in the old thread about this, but I think there are just too many issues that would come of it.