Asking, pleading for kittys to gain love from day one.

[Ethereal Hurricane]

(11-27-2012 06:51 AM)Sara Franco Wrote:  Personally I've never seen a whole thread here that deserves a one star, probably few offensive replies -and we can't rate replies as far as I know-, and I believe disagreeing with a thread never gives me the right to down-rate, because I can't claim that what I don't agree with is certainly wrong or bad.

I've downrated a couple posts when people falsely advertise on the topic, for example, saying something is 9t, when it isn't, or people just spamming or soapboxing, which is needless. I also usually post in the thread. I think the rating system is dumb, hence why I was joking around sarcastically in the thread asking for it to be removed, but I have used the feature before, and I feel the way I used it, was how it was intended.

(11-27-2012 04:06 PM)penfold83 Resident Wrote:  @ Ethereal, no i am not asking for a win button nor every thing handed to me on a plate, and i have made with thread "looking at the bigger picture" ....i work just as hard as the next breeder to pull traits make kittys yaddy yaddy.

If your worry is that the new traits out of new starters will be discovered quicker.. HELLO did you not see that probably every new trait that came with the last batch was found in 13 days ? Without back breeding ?

No, I could care less when things get discovered. I also never said you don't work hard, or that there are people who suck at breeding, or whatever else you guys seem to think I'm saying.

(11-27-2012 10:48 AM)Khea Karas Wrote:  We are all here to discuss a topic, and if you cant do that in a constructive manner then perhaps you should keep your opinions to yourself. It is not necessary to insinuate others are lesser breeders than yourself, simply because they hold different opinions to your own. I can assure you i have been around kittycats long enough and this is not an excuse for an easy breed. I am also well aware of how to pull traits and breed like most of us discussing this topic do.

My suggestion was not to increase the total output of boxes a cat would have in a breeding lifetime. It was simply to support the idea that a cat could have a kitten at 7 days. As soon as it is fully mature, with a cut back of its total breeding lifetime from 120 days to 113 days. Therefore there would NOT be an increase of kitten/cats flooding the market, it would stay as it is in terms of quantity.

Where in my posts (on this thread) have I ever implied anyone was a bad breeder? Quit being so sensitive. It's like you people just see and read what you want and skip over the rest. I've been nothing but constructive, but you guys just want to attack me and say I'm wrong. Not everyone has to agree with you, and I'm perfectly in my rights to voice my disagreement, just as you are. The fact of the matter is, this whole thing is subjective, and no one will ever be able to prove one this is right or wrong, good or bad, but I'd say ATM, this idea has no real beneficial properties, just selfish ones.

And to your second point, yes, I understand all of that, but if you read what I wrote, that none of that takes into account how a cat depreciates in value over the course of its life. Secondly, for new breeders, I'd wager the 14 day cool down period for their new kitten might be more helpful, they don't have to give it milk (and no, they don't need milk from 1-7), they can plan a little better with what and how they want to breed, and they can just generally take their time and learn.

(11-27-2012 11:05 AM)Saga Felix Wrote:  Oh, and to the few that insinuates that those who suggests things will never be happy anyway, let me say: When I started in KittyCatS, there were 3 major things I wished would change: Unpack-time, gender on boxes, and the kittens' time to grow up. 3 things. 2 of them have already happened, and I think we can all agree that those are good things, and that KittyCatS fixed these things brilliantly.
-I am sure that this last thing would also be a good thing, but I do not think it will happen. Why? Well, simply because too many people disagree, and I don't think KittyCatS would force a change that could split the community.
-But even if I think it's unlikely to happen, I will stand by the last of "my 3 wishes" any time :-)

-Saga

So just because your other 2 ideas (which were pretty good, and generally agreed upon by the almost the entirety of the community, probably even before YOU posted them), saying this change, by default, should get made is just plain silly.

For the record, the last time this change was proposed, I got a ton of IMs from people, who lets face it, don't want to voice their opinions for the reasons that are happening right now. You guys attack me and completely disregard anything I'm saying, so far as to assume that I'm 'implying' various things, just because I'm against this idea. You guys gang up on people who disagree with you, and hey, that's basically how every society works anyway, so it's not surprising, but I for one wont give in.