New Fur: Siamese - Blue Tortie

[TerrorMisu Resident]

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[Reven Rosca]

Do you have pedigrees that show Mom and Grandmom's other offspring, Terror? Or Grandma's origin?

[Arwen Swordthain]

So I had this today, box is unpacked to pull the hidden with luck I'll have an answer in a couple of weeks

I loaded Elijah into a profiler and everything I can see is Bengal - Black so its looking good but you never can tell

[TerrorMisu Resident]

(01-09-2018 12:22 PM)TerrorMisu Resident Wrote:  more info...

[Reven Rosca]

(01-19-2018 09:59 AM)TerrorMisu Resident Wrote:  

(01-09-2018 12:22 PM)TerrorMisu Resident Wrote:  more info...

I think wecan prove that Siamese - Blue Tortie is dominant to Blue Marble.
We just need the pedigree of the 43 day old at the lower right for a formal proof that Lady Wanker hides Australian Mist Blue Marble or more recessive.

Technically, it can be Aby Dark judged by these pedigree shots, but Blue Marble is definitely hidden in The Aby Dark mother, meaning that Lady Wanker passed either Aby Dark or Blue Marble. The latter is the most probable.

[TerrorMisu Resident]

Here you go!

[Reven Rosca]

(01-19-2018 03:41 PM)TerrorMisu Resident Wrote:  Here you go!

Thank you Terror!

Here we have a kitty who shows Australian Blue Marble fur.
Her Mom is an Aby Dark, and Dad is an Ocicat Black.

Ocicat Black is known to be dominant to Aby Dark, which means that Dad must have passed his hidden fur.

Grandpa on Dad's side is also an Ocicat Black, while grandma is a Burmilla CSS.
Burmilla CSS is known to be recessive to both Ocicat Black and Blue Marble, which means that Dad, and in turn the Blue Marble, must hide Burmilla Chocolate or more recessive.

Grandma on mom's side is a Siamese Blue Tortie, while grandpa is an Aby Dark.
Mom's fur is either grandpa's shown fur (or his hidden if he is pure) or it is one of Grandma's furs hiding behind the Aby Dark.

The offspring though is still a Blue Marble, which is recessive to Aby Dark. Blue Marble must therefore be Mom's hidden.

It is very likely that Grandma Lady Wanker hides Blue Marble, but we cannot rule out that she hides Aby Dark as long as we haven't studied her pedigrees.

This means that Siamese - Blue Tortie is proven dominant to Australian Mist Blue Marble.

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Breaking news:

Grandma Lady Wanker is actually Lilith, the first Siamese Blue Tortie with a new name.

Her mom is an Australian Mist Blue Marble, which means that she hides AMBM and NOT Aby Dark. Either way, it is confirmed that Siamese Blue Tortie is dominant to Blye Marble.

Please check the cat ID numbers to confirm that this is the same cat as on page 1.

[KittyCatsProofs Resident]

Thank you Terror & Reven for the proofs and analysis, the Forum CHarts have been updated

[TerrorMisu Resident]

(01-20-2018 05:02 AM)KittyCatsProofs Resident Wrote:  Thank you Terror & Reven for the proofs and analysis, the Forum CHarts have been updated

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[Ivy Norsk]

Now that's a manageable range: recessive to Burmilla Blue shaded and dominant to Toyger silver.
Thank you Terror!