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Discovering hidden traits in kittens started using recessive traits!! - fabioazevedo Oh - 05-13-2014 02:28 PM
Would you like to share an article with you all.
Discovering hidden traits in kittens started using recessive traits .
No waiting luck! Do luck!
My theory using recessive traits , to test kittens started , is confirmed when I have results like this :
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http://gyazo.com/fe192b768259f2de6167e6f380c24146
Analyzing the picture!
Fur , eyes , shade , ears , whiskers color , and , whiskers shape , confirmed in a round.
- Foxie Salt fur , recessive , forcing , Bengal Silver fur , come out.
- Rainbow Prism eyes , recessive , forcing , Tapestry Royale eyes , come out.
- Twinkle shade , recessive , forcing Flair shade , come out.
- MOF ears , recessive , forcing , Rounded ears , come out.
- Latte whiskers , recessive , forcing , Blonde Streaked whiskers , come out.
- Plush whiskers shape , forcing Mysterious whiskers shape , come out.
Only , tail , it will be necessary , a new check. Shorty tail , was dominant for the tail hidden in kitten started . We use a posh tail , in the next round .
This is my lesson , I teach everyone that comes in my cattery.
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RE: Discovering hidden traits in kittens started using recessive traits!! - Ethereal Hurricane - 05-13-2014 02:56 PM
I think this is what everyone tries to teach. Thanks for posting though!
RE: Discovering hidden traits in kittens started using recessive traits!! - Kayleigh McMillan - 05-13-2014 03:14 PM
(05-13-2014 02:56 PM)Ethereal Hurricane Wrote: I think this is what everyone tries to teach. Thanks for posting though!
xD
RE: Discovering hidden traits in kittens started using recessive traits!! - Adana Ember - 05-13-2014 03:18 PM
I've heard this over and over, but it really helps to see it in action. Thanks!
RE: Discovering hidden traits in kittens started using recessive traits!! - fabioazevedo Oh - 05-13-2014 04:44 PM
very nice.
We now have visual proof that this technique works and is effective.
RE: Discovering hidden traits in kittens started using recessive traits!! - Ethereal Hurricane - 05-13-2014 05:15 PM
A more simple way to put it would be:
If you want to discover the hidden traits of your starter/cat, use the most recessive trait available against that starter/cat.
From my previous post, what I meant was, this is not a theory, this is fact. This is exactly why the most recessive traits are so expensive.
Thanks again for the visual, nonetheless!
RE: Discovering hidden traits in kittens started using recessive traits!! - MsCasey Baily - 05-13-2014 06:42 PM
To be honest, I've been doing that since almost my start with KCs with much less stellar results, as a matter of fact I have NEVER pulled 8 possibly all 9 traits from a starter. I consider it a lucky round to get 3. So yes, you can optimize your chances by using the most recessive traits you have, but in reality there is still LUCK with a capital L or something else at work.
? Fab posted the thread and commented on it, guess I missed something somewhere?
RE: Discovering hidden traits in kittens started using recessive traits!! - Kayleigh McMillan - 05-14-2014 11:46 AM
If the goal is to breed out new traits as fast as possible this is the way to go.
If the goal is to collect the hidden traits of the starter pure it works way different.
There is nothing I hate as much as buying a weak trait for an insane amount of money.
With this I mean if I want to buy a new trait I like but it is not the most recessive but the most recessive is hidden I'm ticked.
I just want that new trait and not an hidden more and known recessive that is just not what I am paying for.
For example the dreamy whisker may be not the most recessive anymore and as soon as I found out the Sassy was found I made sure to obtain my Dreamy because I like that whisker very much and I do want to have it without Sassy hidden should that be the new recessive.
I do use a very recessive cat to find out what my starter hides and poof the OS to play with the tigers and certainly don't sell it if I happen to find a new trait via this way.
After I decided that the hiddens are interesting enough I breed the starter with a dominant traiter and go via either back- or sibling breeding from there.
RE: Discovering hidden traits in kittens started using recessive traits!! - fabioazevedo Oh - 05-14-2014 06:15 PM
(05-14-2014 11:46 AM)Kayleigh McMillan Wrote: If the goal is to breed out new traits as fast as possible this is the way to go.
Yes.
This is the purpose of the topic. Teaching techniques to discover the hidden traits.
So after discovered, you can apply other techniques such as pure traits, and other projects, breed, kittens 9t, eyes combine with fur.
But first we need to find out.
The idea of the topic, it is well focused. Discover.
I say this because 80% of the kittens started, do not bring new traits. Only the trait are known. And this work needs to be done faster. To save time, food, milk, money.
All buy kittens, and then we have to repair them, improve them, adapt them to our standards, as you mention. So, there are many steps in the creation of the kitten.
RE: Discovering hidden traits in kittens started using recessive traits!! - Kayla Woodrunner - 05-15-2014 12:20 AM
what I say is you were very lucky. This is the type of result I often get with the same scenario
fur: genesis
eyes: genesis
big/curious
tail: posh
ears: genesis
whiskers: silver/guitar
I often get 1, 2 or 3 hidden traits but that's it. It is very very very lucky to get 8 hidden traits even if the partner traits are very recessive because genesis is extremely dominant and you have a 50% chance of getting genesis on each trait. Getting 8 hidden traits like that is like flipping a coin and getting tails 8 times in a row. Of course people do get a boy kitten 10 times in a row. It is just that particular flip of the coin.
Sometimes though, the impossible happens:
Mom has mysterious whiskers
Mom's parents has mysterious whiskers
Mom's grandparents has mysterious whiskers
Mysterious is very dominant
Mom has baby with wavy whiskers.
![[Image: 6b066602fa45e11449db8174467cccce.gif]](http://gyazo.com/6b066602fa45e11449db8174467cccce.gif)
![[Image: c9aa6ba80403b8f84048389ccc6b3cc6.gif]](http://gyazo.com/c9aa6ba80403b8f84048389ccc6b3cc6.gif)
And that my dear is why people play the slot machines and win a million. The odds are a million to one but you can't win if you don't play. It's also why I like mixing and matching my kittens because there are always surprises