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RE: RE: New fur Tiger Purple Kiwi - Ivy Norsk - 04-20-2019 04:46 PM
Thank you Eleanor, super clear proof.
Sorry, been running a bit slow on the weekend.
RE: RE: New fur Tiger Purple Kiwi - LadyBlackDiamond2013 Resident - 07-09-2019 06:42 PM
Threw Kiwi with Ocicat blue and popped babys, got this back today from one them
![[Image: 16919acd1bed4feb32b7a60690e4f264.png]](https://gyazo.com/16919acd1bed4feb32b7a60690e4f264.png)
RE: RE: New fur Tiger Purple Kiwi - Ellen Ireland - 07-10-2019 05:25 AM
Ah, I'm lagging behind as always. I just confirmed Purple Kiwi to be recessive to Powder Blue but that is not news - Kiwi was already well below Powder Blue on the chart. I need to check these more often! :-)
RE: RE: New fur Tiger Purple Kiwi - Ivy Norsk - 07-10-2019 08:20 AM
Ellen, Tazzy/Lady BlackDiamond just got the proof last night. She knocked about 2/3 of the range off. Which is great.
But I know it's frustrating when proof collide.
Anyway, you're not late on checking the chart really. This only went up 8 hours or so before your post.
RE: RE: New fur Tiger Purple Kiwi - Arwen Swordthain - 07-10-2019 09:54 AM
Rethinks the breed of the Purple Kiwi to the Foxie Blondie I had planned for next week ,
Awesome range reduction though!
RE: RE: New fur Tiger Purple Kiwi - LadyBlackDiamond2013 Resident - 07-12-2019 12:52 PM
I am awaiting to pair purple kiwi's with a American Shorthair - Tawny & White Tabby and a Balinese - Seal Lynx since I wanted the eyes on cats to pull down il do the fur test sametime
RE: RE: New fur Tiger Purple Kiwi - Ares6609 Titian - 08-01-2019 08:03 AM
Hello all, I did some testing with the Tiger! Purple Kiwi and I figured I would do a bunch at once so bare with me this will be a longer post but here are the results.
Pandie Fawn & Tiger! Purple Kiwi produced a Pandie Fawn
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Balinese Seal Lynx & Tiger! Purple Kiwi produced a Balinese Seal Lynx
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Tiger! Purple Kiwi & American SH T&W produced a Tiger! Purple Kiwi
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Tiger! Purple Kiwi & Balinese Blue Lynx produced a Balinese Blue Lynx
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So my conclusion was that it should fall between the American SH T&W and the Balinese Seal Lynx. I was thinking of running the same test again with the same partners, but I would love some input.
Thanks,
Ares
RE: RE: New fur Tiger Purple Kiwi - Ivy Norsk - 08-01-2019 10:14 AM
Ares the current range on the Purple Kiwi is recessive to Ocicat blue and dominant to the Aussie Dark Chocolate.
You have some important cats there.
I would like you to open some cats to pull the hiddens. I don't know how much Cattery space you have but these are the cats at issue (listed in order of importance):
The Kiwi Shower that came from the AS Tawny&white would be a good one to start with since it's in the middle of the range.
The Bali Seal shower. (could be hiding toyger snow but maybe not).
The Bali Blue shower is just as likely to hide toyger snow but it's in the range.
Finding the hidden on any of these cats would be helpful.
(The pandi flame kitten isn't in the current range.)
RE: RE: New fur Tiger Purple Kiwi - Ares6609 Titian - 08-01-2019 06:27 PM
Will do, I will get on that tonight
RE: RE: New fur Tiger Purple Kiwi - Arwen Swordthain - 08-02-2019 03:33 AM
The Pandie Fawn that came from the Pandie Flame match up is in the range though so it may hide the Purple Kiwi or possibly the potential hidden Toyger Caramel.
All 4 cats need to be opened and have their hids pulled to be of any use at all.
Ares by all means repeat the tests, many of us breed the initial pair of test cats to create boxes while the first baby is growing and revealing the hid, that way we have back ups should the first baby reveal the wrong hidden. Its not a fast process unfortunately and unless the potential hidden fur is provably pure on the parent the hid always needs to be pulled.
Your one breed supposition would be better had the Purple Kiwi shown over the Bali Blue as well. That it didn't is a clear indication that at least one cat didn't pass the shown fur so that means hids need to be pulled to see which cats passed shown and which passed hid.