(10-16-2014 06:54 PM)xStormyx Resident Wrote:  I honestly don't know any body who attends every single auction in a day,( maybe some people do lol idk) I think that people look at the advertised line ups and see where they would like to be, I don't think anybody should be forced to spend their time in a particular way, whether it be buyers sellers or auctioneers. Auctions should be an enjoyable experience for all involved, we all have the common love of the kitties so let's have fun with it!

Perfect!


Just trying to understand where it was lost.


Some questions and some answers, here on this topic, are helping a lot, we see clearly what we can do to improve the current chaos.

Island, auctioneer, personal fights, buyers.


Someone needed to play the "coconut" in the fan. laughs.


As for me, I am far from wanting to put rules the islands, the auctioneers, and to any person. I have always advocated that people have the right to come and go wherever you want.


Only raised the topic to understand a few points:
if most people agree with the overlay, agrees with the free time of the auction, 1h, 2h, 3h, why an auctioneer, offends and attacks the other, when the auction is at the same time? why the owner of the island, the enemy turns another island, because overlap?


Where we err?


Now I can only go in the wastebasket, my inventory, and see how many friendships were stopping there.

(10-16-2014 06:34 PM)Deerne Resident Wrote:  So the proposal is to auction off as speedy as possible and transact kitties this way.
Just so people can "conveniently" hop from one auction to the other?
That would drive me nuts as a customer.
This is clearly a proposal for the convenience of patrons.
Perhaps some people pick one auction per week they really like and leave the others alone.
That makes more sense from a buyers point view and perhaps even for sellers we do not have unlimted money.

(10-17-2014 12:05 PM)Petronilla Whitfield Wrote:  ? There are some in which the auctioneer gives a lot of informational background on the cat and talks about breeding. Some people think it’s wonderful, others get impatient.

I am an auctioneer. I share my two auctions a week with my long time friend, and breeding partner. We love our crowd to pieces, and I think its safe to say the love us. As a result; we generally overbook every auction, and usually have 17-18 panels per auction in order to satisfy our demand. We mostly finish in under two hours. I can assure you that we could not make it through this number of panels in one hour, and still provide each cat, each patron the attention that they rightly deserve. We pretty much break most of the rules of conduct generally applied to auctions in the name of fun. Our sim owner attends every auction, for the most part, and is fine with our style and approach because we believe in having fun first. Yes auctions are a vehicle for selling cats. My partner and I believe that while selling cats is important; auctions are a place to come relax with friends, and share our passion for our hobby with a like minded community. Applying such a strict methodology, such as the one suggested by Fabao, would take the fun out of the game of auctions. We are all individuals who each desire different things from KittyCats. Find an auction that is your style, with a community you can appreciate, and hang on to it. I agree that overlapping times is an issue, but I also believe that our community, in the majority, is filled with wonderful people that are kind and respectful. Let the auctioneers sort out their time issues among themselves. When I returned to auctioning and picked my times I approached two other auctioneers with which my times contrasted in order to work out acceptable terms with them. Guess what... We resolved the conflicts without a hitch, and I began to co-op auction with one of those auctioneers, and we still co-op monthly with much success. Lets all please just remember to have fun, and to get along with each other as best we can. Nothing in this meta-verse, or in our real world ever runs completely without issue, but if our minds and hearts are in the right place, then more often than not we can all work anything out together. This is Karizmah stepping down from his soapbox. <3

(10-17-2014 11:44 PM)Karizmah Avro Wrote:  I am an auctioneer. I share my two auctions a week with my long time friend, and breeding partner. We love our crowd to pieces, and I think its safe to say the love us. As a result; we generally overbook every auction, and usually have 17-18 panels per auction in order to satisfy our demand. We mostly finish in under two hours. I can assure you that we could not make it through this number of panels in one hour, and still provide each cat, each patron the attention that they rightly deserve. We pretty much break most of the rules of conduct generally applied to auctions in the name of fun. Our sim owner attends every auction, for the most part, and is fine with our style and approach because we believe in having fun first. Yes auctions are a vehicle for selling cats. My partner and I believe that while selling cats is important; auctions are a place to come relax with friends, and share our passion for our hobby with a like minded community. Applying such a strict methodology, such as the one suggested by Fabao, would take the fun out of the game of auctions. We are all individuals who each desire different things from KittyCats. Find an auction that is your style, with a community you can appreciate, and hang on to it. I agree that overlapping times is an issue, but I also believe that our community, in the majority, is filled with wonderful people that are kind and respectful. Let the auctioneers sort out their time issues among themselves. When I returned to auctioning and picked my times I approached two other auctioneers with which my times contrasted in order to work out acceptable terms with them. Guess what... We resolved the conflicts without a hitch, and I began to co-op auction with one of those auctioneers, and we still co-op monthly with much success. Lets all please just remember to have fun, and to get along with each other as best we can. Nothing in this meta-verse, or in our real world ever runs completely without issue, but if our minds and hearts are in the right place, then more often than not we can all work anything out together. This is Karizmah stepping down from his soapbox. <3

(10-17-2014 08:53 PM)Nocshadue Balbozar Wrote:  This issue seems to keep coming up again and again. There seem to be more auctions than there are patrons to fill them. Each one will either sink or swim depending on how many people they can attract and keep coming back. Common sense should be used as a guide here. You can't expect all auctioneers who differ vastly in how they like to do things to ALL be bound by stringent rules. Plus, sometimes situations crop up that call for an auctioneer to make an on the fly judgement call.

To me, a good auction is a social event that combines selling cats with the exchange of information, some chit chat and some laughs. I make time in my RL schedule to attend 2 auctions a week. I'm picky, and I can be, because it's my L$.

If you try to cut an auction down to 1 hour only, each auctioneer would have to either cut their panels in half, or the time they spend on each cat in half, thus shortchanging the seller of showing the cat to it's full advantage. If some auctioneers want to do a short auction, and it may work well for some, then offer only the number of panels you can move through comfortably.

I do enjoy stopping by auctions I've never been to before when I have time. I've been to a few that were good, some that were ok, and some that just made me shake my head and never return. I honestly think that's what most buyers do. Water always seeks it's own level. What is my cup of tea may not be yours.

A rating system would be hard to implement fairly. Pretty much everything in SL seems to be taken personally and cause drama. So most info regarding auctions travels by word of mouth.

Trying to mass TP people to attend an auction is just tacky imho.

With there already being several well established auctions running, it's not an easy business to break in to. Give it time, be yourself, have fun. If it works, grats. If it doesn't, try something else. But don't try to tie the hands of others that have been successful.

Best Wishes,
Noc

(10-18-2014 09:30 AM)phoenixfire01 Resident Wrote:  My pennies worth ...........

Now for the Co-op. What is the Co-op ? Who is in the Co-op ? What is their Mission statement ?? What are they here for ?? How can the average breeder get involved in the Co-op ?? Can the average breeder get involved ?? What are the rules ?? - I hear a lot of people throwing around the word Co-op but no explanation as to what it is, what it's here to do and how it's here to help. I'd love to see my questions answered in a clear, well defined Mission Statement with all information presented.

Quote:Understanding needs to be reached between all parties ie Sim Owners, Auctioneers etc. We the community don't need to you best buddies but to hear one Sim owner slating another and Auctioneers Slate another doesn't look good for either party involve. All you need is Communication, Understand for the fact that yes sh*t happens and above all, even just the smallest respect for what the other does. You may despise this person BUT there is no real need for hostility, this is a game and these things should be fun or why are you doing it ??

Quote:Ok, time for me to shut up now. I apologize if I offend anyone with anything I have written, I just say it like I see it. I also apologize for my spelling.