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Here is Cougar's proof on his Pixie Wild Tiger.

I think this might prove that Pixie Wild Tiger is recessive to Tiger Fold :3

https://gyazo.com/792faed807711bd1fa20d2d9fce831b4

(04-18-2021 05:11 PM)RinaNightshade Resident Wrote: [ -> ]I think this might prove that Pixie Wild Tiger is recessive to Tiger Fold :3

https://gyazo.com/792faed807711bd1fa20d2d9fce831b4

Reposting gyazo for analysis


Pixie Wild Tiger is recessive to Tufted and unknown against Pixie Rounded and Tiger Fold. Mum is a Pixie Rounded Hiding Tiger Fold or more recessive.
Dad is a Pixie Wild Tufted with an unknown hidden since he can't hide his fathers Tufted. Therefore we have no idea what Dad hides only that it is recessive to Pixie Wild Tiger. Theres no evidence here to suggest the Pixie Wild Tiger is pure so we cannot know if the Tiger Fold hides Pixie Wild Tiger. It may be that its a pure Tiger Fold or it may hide Pixie Tufted. Indeed it might hide Pixie Wild Tiger but unless you pull it out using Pixie Tufted this isn't enough to state that Tiger Fold is dominant, we simply don't have enough information on the Pixie Wild Tiger side of the pedigree
seeing Hagleys full pedigree might shed some light on the situation.

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Pixie Wild Tiger is recessive to Pixie Rounded.

Bede got Pixie Rounded from his paternal great grandfather - found that by opening up a Torgon profiler pedigree. I was actually using him to try and test the eye, the ear result was a total surprise.

I have pulled Pixie Wild Tiger over and over again using Tiger Fold. Now looking to see if I can find any of my pedigrees that proves that the PWT hides TF.

For some reason i couldn't get the Torgons to open all of the way up, so its split into two images, sorry.

https://gyazo.com/737c24270536ef0a16a05b3746f5d022
https://gyazo.com/29f89068b726de1d28d230effa103724

(04-19-2021 04:24 AM)Arwen Swordthain Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-18-2021 05:11 PM)RinaNightshade Resident Wrote: [ -> ]I think this might prove that Pixie Wild Tiger is recessive to Tiger Fold :3

https://gyazo.com/792faed807711bd1fa20d2d9fce831b4

Reposting gyazo for analysis


Pixie Wild Tiger is recessive to Tufted and unknown against Pixie Rounded and Tiger Fold. Mum is a Pixie Rounded Hiding Tiger Fold or more recessive.
Dad is a Pixie Wild Tufted with an unknown hidden since he can't hide his fathers Tufted. Therefore we have no idea what Dad hides only that it is recessive to Pixie Wild Tiger. Theres no evidence here to suggest the Pixie Wild Tiger is pure so we cannot know if the Tiger Fold hides Pixie Wild Tiger. It may be that its a pure Tiger Fold or it may hide Pixie Tufted. Indeed it might hide Pixie Wild Tiger but unless you pull it out using Pixie Tufted this isn't enough to state that Tiger Fold is dominant, we simply don't have enough information on the Pixie Wild Tiger side of the pedigree
seeing Hagleys full pedigree might shed some light on the situation.

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I've currently have 10 live cats with Pixie Wild Tiger Ear, 8 of those were pulled using a cat with Tiger Fold Ears. This would suggest, but not prove, Pixie Wild Tiger is dominant to Tiger Fold.

Problem with tracing the pedigree back on the Tiger Folds is I can't get back before 417 days on the oldest ancestor and Pixie Tufted was discovered 524 days ago today. There's absolutely nothing in the pedigree that suggests Pixie Tufted could be hiding, but I can't prove it.

3 of the cats were sat in cattery on 100%, I pulled those out and partnered with Pixie Tufted mates. All 3 made Pixie Wild Tiger kittens.

All 7 cats that are live, old enough to have a kitten in the next week and have a Tiger Fold parent are now partnered with Pixie Tufted mates. Surely one of them has to fail to make a Pixie Wild Tiger kitten....

(04-19-2021 07:23 PM)Eleanor8 Resident Wrote: [ -> ]I've currently have 10 live cats with Pixie Wild Tiger Ear, 8 of those were pulled using a cat with Tiger Fold Ears. This would suggest, but not prove, Pixie Wild Tiger is dominant to Tiger Fold.

Problem with tracing the pedigree back on the Tiger Folds is I can't get back before 417 days on the oldest ancestor and Pixie Tufted was discovered 524 days ago today. There's absolutely nothing in the pedigree that suggests Pixie Tufted could be hiding, but I can't prove it.

3 of the cats were sat in cattery on 100%, I pulled those out and partnered with Pixie Tufted mates. All 3 made Pixie Wild Tiger kittens.

All 7 cats that are live, old enough to have a kitten in the next week and have a Tiger Fold parent are now partnered with Pixie Tufted mates. Surely one of them has to fail to make a Pixie Wild Tiger kitten....

I'm currently checking to see if my Pixie Wild Tiger hides Tiger Fold as it was pulled with Tiger Fold, she declined to pass it last week but breeds again on Sunday. Between us we should get a conclusive answer on this soon.

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And I just looked properly at the Torgons pedigree posted above by Coverboytoy.

Mum Zara has Tiger Fold ears. Her parents Velma & Rafal are full siblings with Vampire Ears gained from their Mother, Victoria. Their Father has Tufted ears therefore they hide Tufted or better from Odis. Since they made a Tiger Fold baby we can conclude that Odis hides Tiger Fold making Zara a pure Tiger Fold. She then pulled Pixie Wild Tiger from Bernard.

Now the only issue with this proof is that its from a Torgons profiler so we can't see cat IDs to confirm all cats duplicated in the pedigree are the same cats. I can't see any reason why they wouldn't be the same cats so it appears we have our proof, its just a case now if everyone agrees to using a Torgons profiler pedigree as a placement proof. One of the resons we prefer Kittycats Pedigree page pedigrees is that cats often change owners and names but the ID never changes and has been used in the past during testing to identify cats from previous proofs that have been renamed or even changed owners.

Yay! Ronin maintained his 100% fail to pass his visible ear record (6 out of 6) and we got our proof.

Pixie Wild Tiger is dominant to Tiger Fold.

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