05-25-2016, 03:13 PM
I am going to change this top section because there are traits being placed not showing placed in Sagas. Since there is a growing gap between the proven charts on the forum and Saga's, I need an easier place to quickly refer to things. So as I re-send charts through the PM, I will also put just the current location things at the top here for as long as there is a discrepency with Saga's. This is just for convenience. I think the Saga volunteers do a lot of hard work and put in a lot of time but they have certain criteria and follow up that they do and we all have RL which can take up time too -- go figure, lol. Also if Saga gets a chart before the forum does, we can just add a line of text in the thread to match Saga. Saga cannot do that -- they need the chart. So send your charts in to Saga as well as put them on the forum.
List last update: 7/22/16
NOTE: I'd refer to the fur and eye placement threads for newest info as the activity is moving there for placement work
Eyes: https://kittycats.ws/forum/showthread.php?tid=26486
Furs: https://kittycats.ws/forum/showthread.php?tid=26487
Discrepencies between Forum Threads and Saga's charts
Fur:
Burmilla - Red Silver Shaded (Placed, Fabao charts, 6/20/16, not re-sent as he sends his in)
Thread: Placed: between Tonkinese Blue Mink and Burmilla Chocolate
Saga's thread: Recessive to Australian Mist - Blue Marble
Chateau Tawny & White No.1 (re-sent chart 7/14/16)
Thread: Placed: between Russian White and Abyssinian Blue
https://kittycats.ws/forum/showthread.php?tid=24180
Saga's thread: dominant to Burmese Platinum and recessive to Russian White
Eyes:
Crystal Crush (resent: 5/26/16)
Thread: Crystal Crush is dominant to Pewter which is now placed between Odyssey Cognac Moon and Morning Dew.
Saga currently: Crystal Crush is dominant to Bronze, Twilight, & Crystal Berry and recessive to Full Moon. (on Pewter line, note says Pewter is dominant to Bronze and recessive to Odyssey Cognac Moon (and Crystal Crush)
Galaxy Sun (4 charts re-sent: 6/17/16)
Thread: dominant for Exotic Breeze and recessive to Odyssey Bellini
Saga currently: nothing yet
Malachite (new chart by Peaches 6/17, not re-sent as I think she sent it in)
Thread: Malachite is recessive to Key Lime
Saga's thread: dominant to Crystal Spring, Crystal Dream, and Frost and recessive to Oceania
Moss
Thread: between Ody Bell and Dry Olive
Saga's thread: recessive to Odyssey Bellini
Twilight
Saga currently: dominant to Canary & Crystal Berry, and recessive to Gerbera Blue & Crystal Crush
Thread: Notation, not chart. Crystal Crush is recessive to Full Moon, Full Moon is placed. So Twilight is between Canary/Crystal Berry and Full Moon
Ears
Whiskers
Lush (dreamy 6/16; OFW 6/17 & 6/20 -- charts not sent in, assuming breeders did)
Thread: between Dreamy and Odyssey FrazzyWave
Saga: recessive to Light Wave
Saga chart and Forum Thread now matches on these
Australian Mist Snow (re-sent: 5/26/16)
Thread: Placed: between Snowshow Cream and Foxie Salt and Pepper Mask
Saga currently: dominant to Aby Dark Choc & Burmilla Black Silver Shaded, and recessive to Foxie Salt & Pepper
7/9 Saga now matches the thread
British Shorthair -- Cream & White (re-sent: 6/17/16)
Thread: dominant to Black Bengal and recessive to Burmese Champagne
Saga's thread: dominant to Foxie Salt & Pepper Mask
7/11 Saga now matches the thread
Burmilla Black Silver Shaded (re-sent 6/8/2016)
Thread: Placed: Proves Burmilla Black Silver Shaded placed between Abyssinian Dark Chocolate and Siamese Chocolate Tortie
Saga currently: Burmilla Black Silver Shaded dominant to Abyssinian Dark Chocolate and recessive to Foxie Salt & Pepper
7/9 Saga now matches the thread
Tonkinese Champagne ( resent: 6/9/2016)
Thread: Proves Tonkinese Champagne is between Bengal Copper and Chateau Cocoa & White No.2
Saga currently: Tonkinese Champagne dominant to Chateau Cocoa & White No.2 and recessive to Chateau Grey & White No. 2.
6/13 Saga now matches the thread
Autumn Leaf (re-sent 6/11/16)
Thread: Proves Autumn Leaf is between Ice Crystal and Double-Dip Flora
Saga currently: Autumn Leaf dominant to Double-Dip Flora and recessive to Beach Blue
6/13 Saga now matches the thread
Crystal Berry (first send of chart : 6/14/16)
Thread: Crystal Berry is between Morning Dew and Canary
Saga currently: dominant to Canary, and recessive to Full Moon (also Twilight & Crystal Crush)
7/11 Saga now matches the thread
Crystal Berry (Placed, 7/21/16, chart sent 7/22)
Thread: Placed: between Bronze and Canary
Saga's thread: Crystal Berry is dominant to Canary, and recessive to Morning Dew (also Twilight & Crystal Crush)
7/24 Saga now matches the thread
Frost (first send: 6/23/16)
Thread: Frost is recessive to Full Moon
Saga's currently:dominant to Starry Baby Blues and recessive to Malachite
7/11 Saga now matches the thread
Galaxy Burst
Thread: 7/16 recessive to Exotic Journey
Saga: recessive to Dry Olive
7/24 Saga now matches the thread
Galaxy Star (re-sent: 6/8/2016)
Thread: Placed: Proves Galaxy Star recessive to Exotic Journey (3 charts sent from Ivy and Arwen)
Saga currently: Galaxy Star now showing recessive to Exotic Journey as of 6/6,needs 2nd chart
6/11 Saga now matches the thread
Odyssey Cognac Moon (re-sent: 6/8/2016)
Thread: Placed: Proves Odyssey Cognac Moon is between Full Moon and Morning Dew
Saga currently: dominant to Morning Dew & Pewter, and recessive to Exotic Treasure
6/13 Saga now matches the thread
Pewter (Placed, 7/11/16, chart sent 7/12)
Thread: Placed: between Odyssey Cognac Moon and Morning Dew
Saga's thread: Pewter is dominant to Bronze and recessive to Odyssey Cognac Moon (and Crystal Crush)
7/24 Saga now matches the thread
Pomegranate (resent: 5/26/16 for Pomegranate re Crystal Crush, 6/14/16 first chart sent for Pomegranate re Crystal Berry)
Thread: Pomegranate is dominant to Crystal Berry (Morning Dew-Canary) and recessive to Full Moon/Crystal Crush
Saga currently: Pomegranate dominant to Wild Cherry and recessive to Full Moon
7/11 Saga now matches the thread
Sparkle Dream (resent: 6/17/16)
Thread: dominant to Fancie Rose Diamond
Saga's charts says: dominant to Tapestry Royale and recessive to Crystal Dream
7/11 Saga now matches the thread
Tapestry Allure (resent: 6/4/16)
Thread: Tapestry Allure is dominant to Morning Dew
Saga currently: Tapestry Allure is dominant to Bronze, and recessive to Gerbera Blue
7/11 Saga now matches the thread
Butterscotch (resent: 5/27/16)
Thread: Placed: Proves Butterscotch between Latte and Flame
Sent charts by Fabao Oh against Latte and Flame
Saga currently: Butterscotch not showing yet
7/9 Saga now matches the thread
Butterscotch (first send: 6/16/16)
Saga currently: Butterscotch not showing yet
Saga needs 2 charts
Proof of a 2nd chart dom to Flame
Chart by Alassariah Resident (Proof dom to Flame)
https://embed.gyazo.com/89a80c7bac1cb563486877f1bde4841c.png
7/9 Saga now matches the thread
Cream (re-sent 6/14/16)
Thread: Cream is recessive to Chocolate
Saga currently: as of 6/13/16 Cream whisker colour dominant to Dusky, recessive to Blonde Streaked
7/9 Saga now matches the thread
Dreamy fold (resent: 5/26/16)
Thread: Placed: Proves Dreamy Fold dominant to Odyssey Rounded Fold, placing Dreamy fold between MOF and ORF
Saga currently: Dreamy Fold ears recessive to Mysterious Odyssey Fold
6/13 Dreamy Fold ears dominant to Soft Curl and recessive to Mysterious Odyssey Fold
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Original first message on 5/25/16
I send charts on the forum to Saga's folks by n by Forum PM, not email so it depends on when one volunteer has time to check their PM mail. PM should notify their email when they have one but lately that hasn't been happening. This is to check which have posted and then see if anything else needs to be re-sent. It's easy to miss charts that are scattered across threads.
This is a list of charts sent in from the forum that I know of and which have shown/not shown on Saga's. Please keep in mind Saga requires 2 proofs.
Recent Saga's proofs
May 19: Bronze PLACED recessive to Morning Dew
May 19: Full Moon PLACED recessive to Gerbera Purple
May 19: Pumpkin recessive to Jade
May 19: Autumn Leaf dominant to Double Dip Flora
Sent in (shown or not shown in Saga's). 3/29 shown Autumn Leaf dominant to Double Dip Flora
4/3 shown Pumpkin recessive to Jade
4/3 n/a Crystal Berry is recessive to Gerbera Purple
4/3 shown Full Moon is placed between Gerbera Purple and Canary
(note: this affected Crystal Berry proof as Crystal Berry is known to be recessive to Full Moon already)
resend of 3/29 5/6 shown Autumn Leaf is dominant to Double Dip Flora
resend of 4/3 5/6 shown Pumpkin recessive to Jade
I thought I sent in some more but it looks like not. So all of the proofs I sent in April have posted. I will go back over the past month on forum posts and see if there is anything that should be sent in. I think I held off on sending more until the ones I sent were posted but don't remember now which ones they were. If you have one and have already sent it in but it's not showing in Saga's yet, please add an addendum here so I know not to resend something that's already been sent.
List last update: 7/22/16
NOTE: I'd refer to the fur and eye placement threads for newest info as the activity is moving there for placement work
Eyes: https://kittycats.ws/forum/showthread.php?tid=26486
Furs: https://kittycats.ws/forum/showthread.php?tid=26487
Discrepencies between Forum Threads and Saga's charts
Fur:
Burmilla - Red Silver Shaded (Placed, Fabao charts, 6/20/16, not re-sent as he sends his in)
Thread: Placed: between Tonkinese Blue Mink and Burmilla Chocolate
Saga's thread: Recessive to Australian Mist - Blue Marble
Chateau Tawny & White No.1 (re-sent chart 7/14/16)
Thread: Placed: between Russian White and Abyssinian Blue
https://kittycats.ws/forum/showthread.php?tid=24180
Saga's thread: dominant to Burmese Platinum and recessive to Russian White
Eyes:
Crystal Crush (resent: 5/26/16)
Thread: Crystal Crush is dominant to Pewter which is now placed between Odyssey Cognac Moon and Morning Dew.
Saga currently: Crystal Crush is dominant to Bronze, Twilight, & Crystal Berry and recessive to Full Moon. (on Pewter line, note says Pewter is dominant to Bronze and recessive to Odyssey Cognac Moon (and Crystal Crush)
Galaxy Sun (4 charts re-sent: 6/17/16)
Thread: dominant for Exotic Breeze and recessive to Odyssey Bellini
Saga currently: nothing yet
Malachite (new chart by Peaches 6/17, not re-sent as I think she sent it in)
Thread: Malachite is recessive to Key Lime
Saga's thread: dominant to Crystal Spring, Crystal Dream, and Frost and recessive to Oceania
Moss
Thread: between Ody Bell and Dry Olive
Saga's thread: recessive to Odyssey Bellini
Twilight
Saga currently: dominant to Canary & Crystal Berry, and recessive to Gerbera Blue & Crystal Crush
Thread: Notation, not chart. Crystal Crush is recessive to Full Moon, Full Moon is placed. So Twilight is between Canary/Crystal Berry and Full Moon
Ears
Whiskers
Lush (dreamy 6/16; OFW 6/17 & 6/20 -- charts not sent in, assuming breeders did)
Thread: between Dreamy and Odyssey FrazzyWave
Saga: recessive to Light Wave
Saga chart and Forum Thread now matches on these
Australian Mist Snow (re-sent: 5/26/16)
Thread: Placed: between Snowshow Cream and Foxie Salt and Pepper Mask
7/9 Saga now matches the thread
British Shorthair -- Cream & White (re-sent: 6/17/16)
Thread: dominant to Black Bengal and recessive to Burmese Champagne
7/11 Saga now matches the thread
Burmilla Black Silver Shaded (re-sent 6/8/2016)
Thread: Placed: Proves Burmilla Black Silver Shaded placed between Abyssinian Dark Chocolate and Siamese Chocolate Tortie
7/9 Saga now matches the thread
Tonkinese Champagne ( resent: 6/9/2016)
Thread: Proves Tonkinese Champagne is between Bengal Copper and Chateau Cocoa & White No.2
6/13 Saga now matches the thread
Autumn Leaf (re-sent 6/11/16)
Thread: Proves Autumn Leaf is between Ice Crystal and Double-Dip Flora
6/13 Saga now matches the thread
Crystal Berry (first send of chart : 6/14/16)
Thread: Crystal Berry is between Morning Dew and Canary
7/11 Saga now matches the thread
Crystal Berry (Placed, 7/21/16, chart sent 7/22)
Thread: Placed: between Bronze and Canary
7/24 Saga now matches the thread
Frost (first send: 6/23/16)
Thread: Frost is recessive to Full Moon
7/11 Saga now matches the thread
Galaxy Burst
Thread: 7/16 recessive to Exotic Journey
7/24 Saga now matches the thread
Galaxy Star (re-sent: 6/8/2016)
Thread: Placed: Proves Galaxy Star recessive to Exotic Journey (3 charts sent from Ivy and Arwen)
6/11 Saga now matches the thread
Odyssey Cognac Moon (re-sent: 6/8/2016)
Thread: Placed: Proves Odyssey Cognac Moon is between Full Moon and Morning Dew
6/13 Saga now matches the thread
Pewter (Placed, 7/11/16, chart sent 7/12)
Thread: Placed: between Odyssey Cognac Moon and Morning Dew
7/24 Saga now matches the thread
Pomegranate (resent: 5/26/16 for Pomegranate re Crystal Crush, 6/14/16 first chart sent for Pomegranate re Crystal Berry)
Thread: Pomegranate is dominant to Crystal Berry (Morning Dew-Canary) and recessive to Full Moon/Crystal Crush
7/11 Saga now matches the thread
Sparkle Dream (resent: 6/17/16)
Thread: dominant to Fancie Rose Diamond
7/11 Saga now matches the thread
Tapestry Allure (resent: 6/4/16)
Thread: Tapestry Allure is dominant to Morning Dew
7/11 Saga now matches the thread
Butterscotch (resent: 5/27/16)
Thread: Placed: Proves Butterscotch between Latte and Flame
Sent charts by Fabao Oh against Latte and Flame
7/9 Saga now matches the thread
Butterscotch (first send: 6/16/16)
Saga currently: Butterscotch not showing yet
Proof of a 2nd chart dom to Flame
Chart by Alassariah Resident (Proof dom to Flame)
https://embed.gyazo.com/89a80c7bac1cb563486877f1bde4841c.png
7/9 Saga now matches the thread
Cream (re-sent 6/14/16)
Thread: Cream is recessive to Chocolate
7/9 Saga now matches the thread
Dreamy fold (resent: 5/26/16)
Thread: Placed: Proves Dreamy Fold dominant to Odyssey Rounded Fold, placing Dreamy fold between MOF and ORF
6/13 Dreamy Fold ears dominant to Soft Curl and recessive to Mysterious Odyssey Fold
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Original first message on 5/25/16
I send charts on the forum to Saga's folks by n by Forum PM, not email so it depends on when one volunteer has time to check their PM mail. PM should notify their email when they have one but lately that hasn't been happening. This is to check which have posted and then see if anything else needs to be re-sent. It's easy to miss charts that are scattered across threads.
This is a list of charts sent in from the forum that I know of and which have shown/not shown on Saga's. Please keep in mind Saga requires 2 proofs.
Recent Saga's proofs
May 19: Bronze PLACED recessive to Morning Dew
May 19: Full Moon PLACED recessive to Gerbera Purple
May 19: Pumpkin recessive to Jade
May 19: Autumn Leaf dominant to Double Dip Flora
Sent in (shown or not shown in Saga's). 3/29 shown Autumn Leaf dominant to Double Dip Flora
4/3 shown Pumpkin recessive to Jade
4/3 n/a Crystal Berry is recessive to Gerbera Purple
4/3 shown Full Moon is placed between Gerbera Purple and Canary
(note: this affected Crystal Berry proof as Crystal Berry is known to be recessive to Full Moon already)
resend of 3/29 5/6 shown Autumn Leaf is dominant to Double Dip Flora
resend of 4/3 5/6 shown Pumpkin recessive to Jade
I thought I sent in some more but it looks like not. So all of the proofs I sent in April have posted. I will go back over the past month on forum posts and see if there is anything that should be sent in. I think I held off on sending more until the ones I sent were posted but don't remember now which ones they were. If you have one and have already sent it in but it's not showing in Saga's yet, please add an addendum here so I know not to resend something that's already been sent.