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On Twilight, Saga's chart doesn't show any info yet. This is proof that Twilight is between Blue Ice and Tapestry Royale

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That's the dad, Derwan. He has Twilight showing
His mom is Blue Ice and his dad is Tapestry Royale

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That's Derwan's daughter. She has Tapestry Royale showing.

So Twilight is the hid of Derwan's mom behind the Blue Ice
With the daughter, Derwan threw his hid which was his father's Tapestry Royale against the daughter's mother's Strawberry Bell.

As there are 40 eyes between Blue Ice and Tapestry Royale, would appreciate it if you all could help narrow it further.
I got twins....here's the ped on them and stats, one has serenity one has twilight both from mom
? ? My first twins! Born 7/4/15

Non Identical Twin:

Fur: Ocicat - Black
Eyes: Twilight (Shape: Mysterious | Pupil: Small)
Shade: Twinkle
Tail: Plush
Ears: Pointed Soft Fold
Whiskers: White (Shape: Frazzled)
Size: Normal

Fur: Ocicat - Ebony Silver
Eyes: Serenity (Shape: Mysterious | Pupil: Small)
Shade: Flash
Tail: Fussy
Ears: Odyssey Boo Boo
Whiskers: Blonde Streaked (Shape: Mysterious)
Size: Normal
http://gyazo.com/54cc9e582160523ed6a9172113d95f96
and her brother
http://gyazo.com/5ef4ebec3fb81584e585bec7087e0293

and moms
http://gyazo.com/ca7cb9ddf9ac6ed74b9af916296f5d1e
Wow, cool. And congrats on the twins!

This is very good proof that Twilight is recessive to Serenity which it is behind. You got to love twins.

Saga's charts says this about Serenity:
Serenity is dominant to Ice Crystal and recessive to Crystal Sun -- more info, please.

This narrows Twilight at minimum to between
Crystal Sun and Tapestry Royale (knocking out 9 eyes in the initial spread) Good job, Dreampoetz.
Thank you Kayla, I have a few more twilights let me look in the pedigrees see if anything can help but most are from the aussie line Smile
Saga's charts now show

Twilight is dominant to Fancie Indigo Diamond and recessive to Serenity

which means Twilight has been narrowed down some more! Two more eyes in the spread has been knocked out!
I bred the twins together and this is what I got, it probably doesn't help but I just wanted to show it
http://gyazo.com/225bab5e24b68035aaa73c93860ac1d5
Dreampoetz -- congrats on the twin's baby -- the fancie rose eye looks really pretty on the seal lynx.

Thanks for the chart. It does suggest strongly though that Twilight is dominant to Fancie Rose which would narrow the spread a little more -- Either the Sereneity or the Twilight twin is hiding the Fancie Rose or they both are. If Twilight is hiding the Fancie Rose, that's definite proof, it is dominant to Fancie Rose. But if Twilight has a moe recessive hid and this Fancie Rose baby hides Twilight... if you find out the Twilight hid by breeding it against something more recesive than Fancie Indigo, please let me know -- now I'm curious. No way to know for sure until the Twilight hid is revealed!
I will split them up after the next baby and see if we can get the twilight hidden to pull <3 thank you for your help
Twilight is dominant to BlueBerry - Please contact me if you need a pedigree link.

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Thanks Reven for reposting the chart in this Twilight thread.

Reven has narrowed Twilight: now showing between Serenity and Blueberry. it knocks out 15 eyes, good job Reven!)
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