(04-07-2012 09:35 AM)Tad Carlucci Wrote: There is "rare" and then there is "recessive" ..
Saga's charts say NOTHING about "rare" .. which is the relative frequency at which one might find the example. That frequency is controlled outside the breeding process by factors such as when the trait was released, which starters (if any) might contain it as a breedable trait, the probabilities for those starters to do so, and whether players like it and want more examples of that trait.
Saga's charts are about "recessive" .. which is the patterns of hiding and exposing the trait while breeding. While they are a great tool for guiding our breeding programs, they say nothing at all about where, or whether, one can find the trait "in the wild" or whether others would value the trait should we produce more examples of it.
The confusion arises because we, as breeders, often favor the more recessive traits because they're Very Good Tools in our programs and because, being so recessive, it's less likely a casual breeding would happen to expose it.
If you think about it, however, that actually means the most recessive traits would tend to become "common" because of our preferences, those with high frequency in starters would be "common" due to that frequency, and the actually "rare" examples seen in the wild are most likely to be those "middling dominance" traits which fall between those two extremes.
Thanks for the info
but what I meant when i mentioned Saga's charts is that the fur wasn't bred enough to know where it falls on the charts and I guessed that this means it is kinda rare because not many breed it.
(04-07-2012 12:14 PM)Liriel Garnet Wrote: (04-07-2012 08:29 AM)Sara Franco Wrote: I'm wondering if the Chateau Cat - Cocoa & White No. 2 is very rare or what, It is not on Saga's documents although she is covering almost everything (Big hug to her) and I haven't seen any in the markets (of course I didn't look in every shop
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I checked the kitty cat of the month March and I found that only 3 had the fur!
It is an extremely cute fur, that's why I'm wondering 
I have a bundle of those furs from some of my Christmas kitties. As I recall, it's not very recessive at all, maybe around bengal sorrel area. I'd have to analyze the breedouts further to say anything more definitive. I'm not a fan of this fur, so I didn't breed it out very much.
Also, what Tad says is very true, about recessive not necessarily equaling rare. I find Ody Sublime much harder to maintain than Ody Rainbow in a line, simply because I know my rainbows are pure, some of the sublimes have rainbow hiding behind them and that will come out about 1/2 the time. I've spent a month trying to pull a morning glory eye out of a cat showing morning glory, but she keeps throwing her hidden prism. It's all about luck sometimes.
I haven't seen the fur live yet but the picture of he kitty of the month caught my heart
and yes I have some kitties passing the hidden always when I want the visible hehe, stubborn ones!
Are not you selling one of the Chat. Cocoa & White No. 2 you have?
I still can't be sure if I will like it live or not but I loved the picture.
Is the Chateau - Cocoa & White No. 2 very rare?
