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RE: Pandie Fawns- How recessive is it? - Mizaki Resident - 06-23-2014 05:13 AM
Thanks Tad for the output and everyone else for sharing your experiences.
Yeah Uber, you're right, both my pairs keep tossing out their hidden fur (FoxieS&P), for now I changed their partners. =) We'll see what happens.
RE: Pandie Fawns- How recessive is it? - Aubreygrace Starlight - 06-23-2014 07:46 AM
I actually did keep mine with he bali cream since my bali cream is getting old anyway. I finally did get a pandie fawn and not a soft black foxie.
RE: Pandie Fawns- How recessive is it? - Arwen Swordthain - 07-08-2014 01:12 AM
(06-19-2014 02:47 AM)Vrem Vaniva Wrote: I'm watching this for more clues too, because i just got my first lovely pandie fawn from a starter -- on his first breed.
I have no idea what to breed it with except that ... it's dominant to Bali Seal and i need to breed mine with awesome whiskers, regardless of fur.
But Just as a data point ...
the dad is a starter, and the mother is a Bali Seal.
Vrem, what was Mums recessive because all the data I have says Pandie Fawn is recessive to Bali Seal, would love more info for clarification
RE: Pandie Fawns- How recessive is it? - Mizaki Resident - 07-08-2014 01:20 AM
I have switched around my pandie fawns. Paired one with a bengal black and got pandie fawn back. Paired another with an Ocicat Ebony Silver, also got pandie fawn back. I haven't tried with Bali seal yet...
RE: Pandie Fawns- How recessive is it? - Malayaa Morningstar - 07-08-2014 06:45 AM
Hi, one of my Romanticats hid pandie fawn so I have been breeding these for several months, the first pairings were with a bali flame and that fur was tangled up in my first couple generations and I never did figure out which one was dominant LOL. I am reasonably certain that pandie is dominant to ebony silver based on my kittens and Liriels charts. My main problem with this fur has been getting girls, I have a gazillion boys and only one nice breeding girl
Been doing bronze and blonde color scheme and they are very golden and beautiful! I should go back and try to untangle bali flame versus pandie fawn (right after I get a few more girls ha ha)
RE: Pandie Fawns- How recessive is it? - Mizaki Resident - 07-08-2014 11:36 AM
haha Malayaa, I have the same problem. I keep getting boys. x.x I need fawn girls too. We'll see what happens, I am waiting for my pairs to give girls.
RE: Pandie Fawns- How recessive is it? - Vrem Vaniva - 07-14-2014 03:36 PM
(07-08-2014 01:12 AM)Arwen Swordthain Wrote:Ah, good point -- could be that Mum threw her recessive fur both times she made a Pandie fawn with this starter. Mum's recessive fur is Foxie Soft Black (shown in her other kittens).(06-19-2014 02:47 AM)Vrem Vaniva Wrote: I'm watching this for more clues too, because i just got my first lovely pandie fawn from a starter -- on his first breed.
I have no idea what to breed it with except that ... it's dominant to Bali Seal and i need to breed mine with awesome whiskers, regardless of fur.
But Just as a data point ...
the dad is a starter, and the mother is a Bali Seal.
Vrem, what was Mums recessive because all the data I have says Pandie Fawn is recessive to Bali Seal, would love more info for clarification
RE: Pandie Fawns- How recessive is it? - Olgita Ruby - 07-18-2014 12:25 PM
I am breeding my fawn with bali cream, and so far out of 5 boxes I got 4 pandies and one bengal black, hidden fur showed up.
RE: Pandie Fawns- How recessive is it? - PetraLAlexander Resident - 07-27-2014 03:59 PM
I have a P/F I am currently breeding who came from the mother being KittyCatS! 3rd Birthday - Berry Fur: Genesis - Coco IV, and the father being
Fur: Foxie - Salt & Pepper Mask. My P / F is a three trait.
RE: Pandie Fawns- How recessive is it? - Vrem Vaniva - 08-09-2014 09:25 AM
(07-14-2014 03:36 PM)Vrem Vaniva Wrote:Bali Seal Mom + starter Dad made Pandie Fawn -- Eberhardt. That wasn't conclusive because Mom could have thrown a hidden fur. Eberhardt then made 2 pandie fawns with a different Bali Seal mate.(07-08-2014 01:12 AM)Arwen Swordthain Wrote:Ah, good point -- could be that Mum threw her recessive fur both times she made a Pandie fawn with this starter. Mum's recessive fur is Foxie Soft Black (shown in her other kittens).(06-19-2014 02:47 AM)Vrem Vaniva Wrote: I'm watching this for more clues too, because i just got my first lovely pandie fawn from a starter -- on his first breed.
I have no idea what to breed it with except that ... it's dominant to Bali Seal and i need to breed mine with awesome whiskers, regardless of fur.
But Just as a data point ...
the dad is a starter, and the mother is a Bali Seal.
Vrem, what was Mums recessive because all the data I have says Pandie Fawn is recessive to Bali Seal, would love more info for clarification
Then he mated twice with Coralie's Pandie Fawn and they produced -- 2 Bali Seals! I think this shows that my pandie fawn boy is definitely hiding Bali Seal.
Maybe you will want a better proof, but I am quite convinced: Pandie Fawn is dominant to Bali Seal.
gyazo.com/53ea3567164c8c4c871dc026becba2ec
I'm thinking ... give the pandie fawn a mate with the fur you want its kittens to hide (or show) -- until such time as you can make a "pure" pandie fawn if desired.